Hi, Dashamir:

You could be right about the relative difficulties. Maybe extending 
MoinMoin would be easier. But as with any open source project, it's easy 
to wish for things--harder to make change happen. Somebody (or some 
people) have to step up and either sponsor the development or do it 
themselves.

I will say, in case people haven't been tracking this, MoinMoin just 
last week did merge some DocBook code from a 1.6 branch into the main 
1.7 trunk. You can read more about that here:

http://moinmo.in/DocBook

However, these updates are by no means the complete DocBook solution for 
MoinMoin--and more work still needs to be done. In fact, MoinMoin on 
their website is actively trying to recruit a DocBook champion to steer 
and take ownership of their DocBook development.

It appears to be a wide open field. Extending MoinMoin with a DocBook 
Wiki plug-in could be on the table--or not, depending on who steps up to 
do (or sponsor) the work.

Regards,
Pierce


Dashamir Hoxha wrote:
> Pierce,
> 
> I don't regret that you have selected MoinMoin. I like it myself.
> However it could be more easy to extend DocBook features of MoinMoin
> than to integrate MoinMoin and DocBookWiki.
> 
> Regards,
> Dashamir
> 
> Pierce Tyler wrote:
>> Hi, Fintan:
>>
>> That is a very interesting idea. It would give users the best of both 
>> worlds, really.
>>
>> We recently finished evaluating wikis for implementation at our site. 
>> And the choice came down to MoinMoin vs. DocBook Wiki. It was an 
>> extremely tough choice. Both packages have strengths and weaknesses. But 
>> in the end we went with MoinMoin because the community is larger and 
>> more active and development is moving forward.
>>
>> While MoinMoin does offer some DocBook support, that support is not 
>> nearly as extensive as DocBook Wiki's. Also, the backend SVN support 
>> offered by DocBook Wiki is something MoinMoin does not currently offer.
>>
>> I suppose integrating a PHP-based application with MoinMoin, which is 
>> written in Python, could pose some challenges. But, again, I really like 
>> this idea if it were possible--or if people were interested in trying to 
>> make it happen.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Pierce
>>
>>
>> Bolton, Fintan wrote:
>>> Hello Dashamir,
>>>
>>> I wonder if you have ever considered re-packaging DocBook Wiki as a
>>> plug-in to one of the mainstream Wikis, such as Confluence or Moin-Moin?
>>>
>>> It is a peculiar paradox that, although DocBook Wiki has much better
>>> DocBook support than any other Wiki out there, it has failed to gain
>>> much traction in the Wiki space. I suspect the reason for this is that
>>> there is currently a rather high threshold to getting a new Wiki flavour
>>> accepted. For example, on a typical open source project, you would have
>>> very little prospect of persuading an open source community to drop
>>> Moin-Moin or Confluence in favour of a little-known product like DocBook
>>> Wiki. Even persuading the community to adopt it as an 'extra' Wiki would
>>> probably be an uphill battle.
>>>
>>> In marketing terms, therefore, it would be much easier to get DocBook
>>> Wiki accepted if it came in the form of a Confluence or Moin-Moin
>>> plug-in. Adding plug-ins to Wikis is a routine procedure that would be
>>> unlikely to arouse much controversy in an open source community.
>>>
>>> Of course, I am glossing over the technical difficulties here, which
>>> might be considerable. But the integration would not have to be perfect.
>>> The main goal would be to make DocBook Wiki look similar enough to the
>>> host Wiki, so that it can gain acceptance. On a technical level,
>>> probably the main priorities would be to integrate user administration
>>> with the host Wiki and to change the appearance of the pages to look
>>> more like the host Wiki.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Fintan
>>>
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