Stefan Seefeld wrote:
Dave Pawson wrote:

Where to draw the line? Overlays and slides are javascript + html surely? Same way that Norm added 'next slide' type javascript.
Indeed, incremental display (as well as overlays) is implemented using javascript. But it's still something a presentation author wants to specify in the markup. While it is clear that incrementals can be ignored in handouts, for all others they are media-independent (i.e. no matter whether you use HTML or some other fancy tool, you want to specify what 'next' stands for).

I'm going to remain neutral on that till I understand it.
Could you describe a rough outline of markup through to an overlay
of a second list item being added to an existing list, perhaps, as
an example?





What markup are you thinking of for incremental lists?
list continuation attributes? Semantic = continue numbering from
previous-sibling::list?
I'm not sure. Just a means to indicate how the slide content is chunked for incremental display. (And sometimes it's not a simple linear chunking, for example when some content has to be kept in sync, such as list items and graphic overlays.)

In which case I don't understand enough to suggest anything.
Could you define it? Simple example first?





Another area is to explicitely allow multi-column displays, with explicit placement into those columns (or more generally, blocks). Having content flow automatically is typically not what presentation authors want.

Which is getting pretty close to xsl-fo? Again, where to draw the line?
I've used CSS for multi-column presentation of html divs... how to get that back into markup?
  By the sound of it you want n divs, then a means to lay them out?
perhaps using some <sect-n> element with an attribute indicating left
or right layout? is that the sort of thing?

Yes, exactly. Well, it might be good enough to have an indicator (such as 'template' enumerator per slide, then use named blocks which content is put into. The template enumerator will then indicate how those blocks are layed out.) That seems to be similar in spirit to what presentational software such as powerpoint or openoffice offer.

Which is a mile away from semantic or even presentational markup?
It is exactly xsl-fo. Take this block, flow it into that position.

Again, more clarity please, markup through to presentation?



s I think.

I'm not 100% at the moment or I'd offer to do it. Not hard though, honest.

And I have never actually used relaxng. May be I should try, some day...


What's wrong with today?

http://books.xmlschemata.org/relaxng/page2.html
great starting point,
great language to work with.





regards

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Dave Pawson
XSLT XSL-FO FAQ.
http://www.dpawson.co.uk

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