Dick,

Thanks for the tips.  I know all about Lulu - it works really well for
two friends of mine - but was unfamiliar with CreateSpace.

I understand that Powell's City of Books, here in downtown Portland,
has a print-on-demand press right there in their main Burnside store.

While print-on-demand does for sure have lower up-front costs, while I
have not yet actually looked into it, my understanding is that a print
run would result in a lower per-copy cost.  That would enable me
either to charge a lower cover price, and so perhaps sell more copies
faster, or perhaps have a higher profit, were I to charge the same
price as I would through a print-on-demand service.

To obtain one's own series of ISBN numbers - I don't know the proper
term for it, but the part of the ISBN that is fixed for a given
publisher - I understand costs about $700.00.  Lulu will sell me an
ISBN for just one book, for somewhat more - I don't recall exactly -
than $100.00.  I have several books that I ultimately plan to publish,
so maybe it would work out in the long run, in my favor, to cough up
that $700.00 for my own publisher's number.

Storing a print run would not be a problem, as I already rent a
storage locker, in which I'm keeping a whole bunch of tools that I
inherited from my father, his father, and my great-uncle.  I have just
about all the carpentry tools one would require to build a house, even
a table saw, but there is lots of extra room in that locker where I
could fit the books.

Actually getting the books through the distribution channel, and from
there into both brick-and-mortar and online bookstores, I have not yet
looked into.  I do know that if I get an ISBN from Lulu, they will
also supply me with artwork for the associated barcode.  Once I then
submit to Lulu a PDF with that barcode and ISBN on the cover, they can
put it right into distribution.  From time to time, Lulu books even
make the top-seller lists at Amazon.

Michael David Crawford P.E., Process Architect
Solving the Software Problem
[email protected]
http://www.warplife.com/mdc/

   Don't Fix the Bugs.  Fix the People that _Cause_ the Bugs.

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Richard Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> I bit off topic for DocBook, but not for your question: rather than doing a 
> print run, you may want to look into print-on-demand using a company like 
> CreateSpace or Lulu. You'll have much lower up-front costs and you won't need 
> to turn your home into a warehouse:)
>
> Also, I'm not sure which tool you were referring to, but Herold (the xhtml to 
> DocBook converter) is open source. In fact, you can build an entirely 
> open-source tool chain for DocBook. The only weak link is FOP, which has some 
> gaps in compliance with the FO standard (most noticeably in indexing), but it 
> is getting better all the time and may work for your purposes.
>
> Best Regards,
> Dick
> -------
> XML Press
> XML for Technical Communicators
> http://xmlpress.net
> [email protected]
>
>
>
> On Jul 30, 2013, at 12:01 AM, Michael Crawford wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your help, everyone.
>>
>> I need to brush up on my DocBook before I reply in real detail.  It's
>> been eons.  I did know DocBook quite well back in the day, but at the
>> time was not happy with the available tools.  DocBook itself I think
>> is just dandy, but the tools I was using then were a real PITA.
>>
>> Camille, I'm afraid mine is quite a low budget operation.  However,
>> I'm contemplating using a KickStarter Campaign to finance an initial
>> print run of at least one of my books.  If I do that, I expect I could
>> afford to pay for a license for the proprietary version of your tool.
>>
>> It's been a long time, but I was at one time intimately familiar with
>> the Apache Xerces-C (actually C++) XML DOM API.  One approach that I
>> could conceivably take, would be to write a C++ program, that would
>> use Xerces-C to read my essays one-at-a-time into their own DOM, then
>> copy the contents of the XHTML elements into the corresponding DocBook
>> 5 XML elements.  For <p> to <Para> that would be straightforward, but
>> I haven't looked into the other kinds of elements yet, or attributes.
>>
>> I just now installed some of the DocBook packages on my Mountain Lion
>> MacBook Pro with MacPorts, however the docbook-utils package would not
>> install, no doubt due to some configuration bug in its port file.
>> I'll report that via the MacPorts trouble ticket procedure.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Mike Crawford
>> [email protected]
>> http://www.warplife.com/
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Richard Hamilton <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> I have had very good luck with Herold (http://www.michael-a-fuchs.de).
>>>
>>> I'm usually not fortunate enough to have strict xhtml, so we do some 
>>> pre-processing (usually on well-behaved, but idiosyncratic, html), tidy it 
>>> up into xhtml, then run Herold.
>>>
>>> You may find that you need to do some light pre- or post-processing, but 
>>> for us it has never been more than a short XSL stylesheet to do things like 
>>> remove empty paragraphs from the initial XHTML or change the root element 
>>> in the resulting DocBook (the latter can probably be handled by Herold 
>>> using Groovy scripts, but I've learning all the scripting languages I need 
>>> for the time being, so I stick with XSL or Perl-:).
>>>
>>> When we build a book, like you're doing, rather than concatenate pieces, we 
>>> keep each file separate, then create a "book" file that uses xinclude to 
>>> pull in the chapters. That simplifies the scripting and makes it easier to 
>>> move parts around in the book.
>>>
>>> Regarding the killer feature, if you use the right option (I don't remember 
>>> off-hand, but it's in Bob Stayton's book (http://sagehill.net)), you can 
>>> get exactly what you want for links in the hard copy.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Dick Hamilton
>>> -------
>>> XML Press
>>> XML for Technical Communicators
>>> http://xmlpress.net
>>> [email protected]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 27, 2013, at 6:18 PM, Michael Crawford wrote:
>>>
>>>> Greetings, Earthlings,
>>>>
>>>> I have some articles and essays that are all marked up with valid XHTML 
>>>> 1.0 Strict with CSS, that I would like to publish as bound, dead-tree 
>>>> books, possibly also eBooks.
>>>>
>>>> It seems to me that the best way to do that would be to convert each 
>>>> collection of essays into a single DocBook XML document.  Can you give me 
>>>> some tips on how to get started?  I'm happy to Read The Fine Manual, but 
>>>> there are so many.
>>>>
>>>> One such volume, when printed both-sides on US Letter paper, is ~250 
>>>> pages.  The essays range from two to fifty pages.
>>>>
>>>> What I _think_ I need to do is to use some manner of XML-to-XML 
>>>> transformation, to strip everything from the beginning of each document, 
>>>> up to and including the opening <body>, then from the closing </body>, to 
>>>> the end of each document....
>>>>
>>>> ... then concatenate them all together, with each present XHTML document 
>>>> being a single chapter in the resulting DocBook document...
>>>>
>>>> ... then replace HTML-style tags and attributes with DocBook-style: <p> to 
>>>> <Para>, for example...
>>>>
>>>> ... what would be for me, A Killer Feature, would be to convert each HTML 
>>>> <a href="..."> hyperlink into a DocBook footnote.  So where I have this:
>>>>
>>>> ===========
>>>> a long-forgotten <a href="http://www.kuro5hin.org/";>cesspool</a> in a 
>>>> far-off corner of the World-Wide Web...
>>>> ===========
>>>> would look something like this in hardcopy form:
>>>>
>>>> a long-forgotten cesspool[1] in a far-off corner of the World-Wide Web...
>>>> ----
>>>> 1. http://www.kuro5hin.org/
>>>>
>>>> =========
>>>>
>>>> I'd also like to design my own custom stylesheets.  I'll ask about that 
>>>> later though.  I have a copy of "Android Programming: The Big Nerd Ranch 
>>>> Guide" by Bill Phillips and Brian Hardy.  In the Acknowledgements, the 
>>>> authors credit Chris Loper of http://www.intelligentenglish.com/ for his 
>>>> DocBook toolchain.
>>>>
>>>> That volume is exquisite.  I'd like to design my own volume, not to look 
>>>> the same, but to look as good, with my own personal style.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any advice you can give me.
>>>>
>>>> Mike Crawford
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> http://www.warplife.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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