Hi,
 
Thank you everyone! With the info on that fop configuration for custom setup I 
was able to get fop to actually use the xconf file....so much trouble because I 
had thought fop had been using the standard system configuration file by 
default, but it does not. Edits to use the required font mentioned in earlier 
replies now works...it just goes to show...be careful what you edit, it might 
not be the file being used! Fonts now work as they should and include the 
previously missing glyphs.
 
The quick workaround is to add the "-c /usr/share/fop/conf/fop.xconf". That 
custom font script though adds a lot to making sure doc builds are more 
predictable.
 
I think I do need to ask the fop people why the dump of current configuration 
details fails. If this had been working I might have seen earlier that the 
expected xconf file was not used...I'm still curious as to where its 
configuration is really from. The base-14 fonts are standard so perhaps no 
config file was used at all and these are just built in...fop just doesn't want 
to tell me about its configuration.
 
Thanks!
 
----- Original Message -----From: DeanNelson@aol.comTo: stim...@comcast.net, 
docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.orgSent: Fri, 03 Feb 2017 01:38:19 -0000 
(UTC)Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] Odd Characters in UTF-8, Docbook 5.1


I use DejaVu fonts with FOP on both Windows and Linux.
 
I use my own config file via "-c configFile.xml" switch with FOPs command line 
to override the standard config. The integration with DejaVu fonts is pretty 
straight forward.
 
This may help you - attached is part of the script that I use on Linux to call 
FOP and also the configuration file.
 
You should be able to comment out the DejaVu parts of the config file and see 
your fonts return to default. If not, I would check the fop script that starts 
FOP.  (using 'which fop' to locate it)
 
Good luck.
 
Dean Nelson
 
 

In a message dated 2/2/2017 2:19:16 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
stim...@comcast.net writes:

This is turning out to be odd...I have to conclude that fop is not  reading any 
configuration files...especially none named "fop.xconf". The short  story is 
that I can intentionally introduce errors in fop.xconf (all  occurrences on the 
computer as verified by updatedb and locate .xconf),  introduce 
"<strict-configuration>true</strict-configuration>", and  no mention of 
anything different occurs. I can run this under strace, and I  see no calls at 
all referring to opening any xconf file (nor any attempt to do  so). Somehow I 
need to figure out how fop is configured since the installed  xconf files are 
ignored.
 
Here's a summary of how I go there:
 
The DejaVuSans fonts do contain the character glyphs, and this is what  I've 
been trying to switch to instead of Helvetica for the sans-serif.
 
It was determined that param.xsl picks between serif and sans-serif by  naming 
one of these:
<xsl:param name="body.font.family">serif</xsl:param>
<xsl:param  name="body.font.family">sans-serif</xsl:param>
 
When changing between serif and sans-serif vi param.xsl edits, it is  verified 
that that either Times or Helvetica are used upon switch. This works  as 
expected.
 
I added the fop option "-d" to debug...this did not indicate any error,  though 
it was more explicit about not finding glyphs. After that I tried the  
strict-configuration modification. No change. I looked for any possible  
occurrence of fop.xconf, these two exist (I don't know how they differ), I  
intentionally tried to break both for warning information:
/usr/share/fop/conf/fop.xconf/usr/share/publican/fop/fop.xconf 
This had no effect, so this is when I tried strace. It seems fop does not  use 
external configuration file searches, and I don't know why...so I can't  
actually add DejaVuSans. I'm currently trying to figure out where there is a  
mailing list or other support for fop. Incidentally, the "fop -x" command to  
dump configuration fails...it wants an input file or it won't tell me anything  
about configuration.
 
Thanks everyone for the help!
 
----- Original Message -----From: Dave Pawson  <dave.paw...@gmail.com>To: 
Richard Hamilton 

<hamil...@xmlpress.net>Cc: stim...@comcast.net, Docbook  
<docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org>Sent: Thu, 02 Feb 2017 06:37:36  -0000 
(UTC)Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] Odd Characters in UTF-8, Docbook  5.1

Perhaps start where the problem is. Look for a font which containsthe  glyphs 
for the Unicode code points you want to use. Check thecode points  produce the 
glyphs you want.Find out how the app (fop and any others you  use in your tool 
chain)selects fonts.Run the app knowing that the font  has what you want and 
your codepoints are correct.

HTH

On 1 February 2017 at 23:44, Richard Hamilton  <hamil...@xmlpress.net> wrote:> 
I&rsquo;m getting out of my depth on  fop, so maybe someone else on the list 
can help here.>> However,  diving in deeper than I should:-)I suspect the 
problem is number  1.>> I suggest running fop with the -d (debug) mode, and you 
 might also try -x, which will dump the configuration; that way you can see if  
the configuration fop uses is what you think it is using.>> Good  luck,> Dick> 
-------> XML Press> XML for Technical  Communicators> http://xmlpress.net>  
hamil...@xmlpress.net>>>>> On Feb 1, 2017, at  15:21, stim...@comcast.net 
wrote:>>>>  Hi,>>>> So what my experimenting shows so far for trying  to change 
font is that I can adjust param.xsl and switch between serif or  sans-serif. 
The result depends on what is available in fop.xconf which lists  Times-Roman 
for serif, and Helvetica for sans-serif. I've attempted to add an  additional 
font definition for DejaVuSans by the following inside the  <fonts> of 
fop.xconf:>>>> <!-- DejaVuSans  -->>> <font  
embed-url="/usr/share/fonts/dejavu/DejaVuSans.ttf">>>  <font-triplet 
name="DejaVuSans" style="normal"  weight="normal"/>>> </font>>>>> I am  unable 
to name "DejaVuSans" instead of "sans-serif" in param.xsl (it falls  back to 
Symbol). I see three possibilities...>> 1. My DejaVuSans  declaration is 
wrong.>> 2. I have to remove Helvetica in fop.xconf  from the sans-serif 
listings.>> 3. The Docbook parameters you  mentioned are somewhere outside of 
fop.xconf or  param.xsl.>>>> It seems unlikely I need to remove  Helvetica, 
more likely there is another configuration elsewhere. However, I  don't see any 
occurrence of "Helvetica" in any of the other Docbook files  under the 
"stylesheet/docbook-xsl-ns-1.79.1/" directory tree which are related  to this 
case (for example, there is a subdirectory for "slides" which would  seem to be 
unrelated to the "book" being published to pdf). The full path to  the ttf font 
file is available and readable to everyone; this is verifiable  with a font 
editor (one reason to choose DejaVu is that the font editor  actually shows the 
desired box drawing font glyphs at index 0x2500 and  on).>>>> Am I missing 
another file to edit, or am I simply  using the wrong syntax for my addition of 
DejaVuSans?>>>>  Thanks!>>>> ----- Original Message ----->> From:  Richard 
Hamilton <hamil...@xmlpress.net>>> To:  stim...@comcast.net>> Cc: Docbook  
<docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org>>> Sent: Wed, 01 Feb 2017  20:36:59 -0000 
(UTC)>> Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] Odd Characters in  UTF-8, Docbook 5.1>> 
Hi,>> There are two steps to the font  assignment process: 1) configuring 
fop&rsquo;s fonts and 2) setting DocBook  parameters to call the fonts you have 
configured in fop.>> In this  case, the mapping between serif and Times (and 
sans-serif and Helvetica)  happens in the fop configuration file, fop.xconf.>> 
So, when you set  the DocBook parameter to sans-serif, fop defaults to 
Helvetica. If you want  sans-serif to default to something else, or if you want 
to add a font, you  need to change the configuration in fop.xconf. Once you 
have configured fop to  recognize a font, you can refer to it from the DocBook 
parameters using the  name you have associated with the font in fop.xconf. If 
you look in your  fop.xconf file, you will find that the definition for Times 
contains several  instances of the <font-triplet> element, each of which 
defines a name  you can use for that font, along with information about style 
and  weight.>> This page has some information on configuring the  fop.xconf 
file for fonts:>>  https://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/2.1/fonts.html>> Best  
regards,>> Dick Hamilton>> ------->> XML  Press>> XML for Technical 
Communicators>>  http://xmlpress.net>> hamil...@xmlpress.net>> > On Feb  1, 
2017, at 11:53, stim...@comcast.net wrote:>> >>>  > Hi,>> >>> > I tested this 
by changing  body.font.family to sans-serif. The document did successfully 
switch, and used  Helvetica. Unfortunately, Helvetica also lacks the box 
drawing characters. Is  there a configuration file used for a given Docbook 5.1 
installation which  maps "Times Roman" to serif, and "Helvetica" to sans-serif? 
I think this is  the key to getting those box drawing characters to 
work...perhaps if I can  remap serif and sans-serif to valid fonts other than 
Helvetica and Times Roman  it would work with those characters.>> >>> >  
Thanks!>> >>> > ----- Original Message  ----->> > From: Bob Stayton 
<b...@sagehill.net>>>  > To: stim...@comcast.net, 
docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org>>  > Sent: Wed, 01 Feb 2017 18:51:04 -0000 
(UTC)>> > Subject: Re:  [docbook-apps] Odd Characters in UTF-8, Docbook 5.1>> > 
 Hi,>> > If by system-wide you mean everyone sharing one DocBook  XSL>> > 
installation, you could edit the parameters file for that  installation.>> > 
Find the file named fo/param.xsl and change  these stylesheet parameters:>> > 
<xsl:param  name="body.font.family">serif</xsl:param>>> >  <xsl:param  
name="title.font.family">sans-serif</xsl:param>>> > All  of the stylesheet 
params are documented here:>> >  
http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/doc/fo/index.html>>  >>> > 
Bob Stayton>> > Sagehill  Enterprises>> > b...@sagehill.net>> > On 2/1/2017  
10:22 AM, stim...@comcast.net wrote:>> > > I just wanted to  add some 
information from reading build logs for the>> > >  document. It turns out the 
error shows up under "fop" because the>>  > > particular font does not support 
this character (I'm  surprised>> > > Times-Roman does not have this by default  
since just about every>> > > application on the system has the  character):>> > 
> WARNING: Glyph "├" (0x251c, SF080000) not  available in font "Times-Roman".>> 
> >>> > >  The trouble here is I now want to change this for the system as a  
whole,>> > > not just on the document (I want to avoid any  project using>> > > 
Times-Roman). I am curious if there is  some simple way under Linux to>> > > 
find out which fonts fop  has available, and how to change the default>> > > 
font family  for all Docbook publishing via a system-wide setting? I've>> >  > 
found many documents on modifying Docbook behavior within source  code,>> > > 
but not much seems to exist on system-wide Docbook  configuration from a>> > > 
system administrator's point of  view...if anyone has a URL for>> > > 
information on specifics  of tuning Docbook defaults under Linux I'd be>> > > 
very  happy!>> > >>> > > Thanks!>> >  >>> > > ----- Original Message ----->> > 
>  From: stim...@comcast.net>> > > To:  docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org>> > > 
Sent: Tue, 31 Jan 2017  23:20:24 -0000 (UTC)>> > > Subject: [docbook-apps] Odd  
Characters in UTF-8, Docbook 5.1>> > > Hi,>> >  >>> > > I'm working on a Linux 
machine which has UTF-8  encoding. The docbook 5.1>> > > I'm working with is  
declared:>> > > <?xml version="1.0"  encoding="utf-8"?>>> > > <!DOCTYPE book 
[>>  > > <!ENTITY version "0.1 unreleased">>> > >  ]>>> > >>> > > Entities 
changed a while  back (relaxng changed things), but so far as I>> > > know I  
should still be able to work with numeric entities when using odd>>  > > 
characters which are part of UTF-8. I'm trying to get some box  drawing>> > > 
characters to work, specifically because I need  to illustrate a file>> > > 
directory structure which has been  output like this from the "tree -d">> > > 
command. Here's a  short sample:>> > >> tree -d -L 2 /etc | tail -n 20 | tail  
-n 6>> > > │ ├── pluginconf.d>> > > │ ├──  protected.d>> > > │ └── vars>> > > 
└──  yum.repos.d>> > >>> > > As you can see the  vertical and horizontal box 
drawing characters are>> > > used.  When I redirect this to a file or copy and 
paste into the document>>  > > all I get is a substitute...each shows as "#". 
So I tried to use  numeric>> > > entities instead. As an example "boxh"  
(horizontal box line) should work>> > > as "&#x2500;".  This does not work, and 
rendering still ends up as "#". I>> >  > tried the numeric code for the 
plus/minus character, "|&#x00B1;|",  and>> > > this does work. I don't know if 
it proves anything,  but since my UTF-8>> > > terminal shows all of the above  
characters just fine on a terminal, it>> > > seems like the  ability to output 
is not in question...perhaps this is an>> >  > invalid assumption.>> > >>> > > 
Btw, one  reference on the Unicode numeric value is from:>> > >  
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/documentation/reference/html/iso-box.html>>  
> >>> > > Under Docbook 5.1, what do I need to do to use  this numeric entity 
other>> > > than using UTF-8 and the  numeric entity syntax? Is there an 
additional>> > > XML  declaration I need?>> > >>> > >  Thanks!>>>  
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