[messing up a bit]
On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Wroth, M. LTC MATH wrote:
>
><personalname><givenname>Mark</givenname><secondname>B.</secondname><surname>Wroth</surname><lineal>Jr</lineal></personalname>
I much prefer <forename> to <givenname>, and the simpler <name>
to <personalname>.
> and
>
> <personalname>Mark B. Wroth Jr</personalname>
This one sounds fair as a standalone element.
> nickname: a personal name, usually bestowed by others. In some
> cases it is used in place of, and in others in addition to, the
> given name. Usually informal.
>
informal like "the Ripper"? ;)
> locative: a name element indicating a place of origin or
> residence. Can be viewed as a form of nickname, but is almost
> always used in addition to a personal name of some sort.
Right, like Geoffrey of Monmouth.
> patronymic (or matronymic): a name indicating who one's parent
> is. It may serve the function of a surname (e.g. Icelandic
> practice) or it may be used as a nickname (e.g. Russian
> practice).
In Spain we use a "first surname" (the father�s surname) and a
"second surname", whereas in Portugal the father�s surname goes
in second place and the mother�s in first place.
This is confusing in anglo-saxon countries, as I used to be given
my forename, then my "first surname" as an initial, then my
"second surname" as my only surname, in official documents and
others.
I could use an attribute for the surname element.(*)
> lineal marker: a particle added to distinguish between members
> of the same lineage with the same name (e.g. "junior/senior").
>
> honorific: a spoken form used in address (e.g. "Mr.", "Dr",
> "the Honorable")
>
> title: a reference to rank held by the individual. This may be
> a form of address (e.g. most military ranks), but need not be:
> there are a number of ranks where the form of address used is
> not obviously related to the rank itself).
Wouldn�t it be simpler to include �role� attribute in the
honorific element, like "academic", "military", "religious",
... ?
> common attribute:
> position (shows the place in the name order the word
> normally appears)
>
> Element given
> attributes: role (e.g. baptismal, nickname, locative ...)
>
> Element surname
> May contain itself (e.g. <surname><surname>Vega</surname>
> y <surname>Asturias</surname></surname>
(*)
<surname lineage="paternal"> vs. <surname lineage="maternal">
Some countries will use other ways to give surnames. In old
times it was common for someone to bear a form of the father�s
forename as the surname:
Rodrigo -> Rodriguez, Herman -> Hermansson
This might deserve an attribute for History docs.
Also, in anglo-saxon countries (and other countries) the bride is
given the groom�s name after marrying, so:
<surname lineage="marital">
BTW, while Italians use only one surname, an Italian friend of
mine "adopted" his godfather�s surname as he wanted to honour
hime this way. So, "Riccardo Martini" became "Riccardo Bellini
Martini"... for which case:
<name>
<forename>Riccardo</forename>
<surname lineage="acquired">Bellini</surname>
<surname lineage="paternal">Martini</surname>
</name>
Other complex cases could be:
<name>
<forename role="religious">John Paul <line>II</line></forename>,
n�e <name><forename>Karol</forename>
<surname>Wojtila</surname></name>
</name>
(may be other religious leaders do take names too... the Lamas
do... and Christian nuns too).
Regards,
--
Horacio
