hello bill it is really great to hear your and your friends comments.
> Is http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/mod_perl_site/var_c/ the current design? no, that is more or less my version - sort of an idea domain. > design -- something most people don't even think about. His comment was > that the mod_perl/camel logo and the "welcome to mod_perl" are in > competition -- "your eye doesn't know where to start" was his comment. He > says there needs to be "air" above the "welcome to mod_perl" box to let > your eye flow (more like the about page where the bread crumb is above > forcing the title lower) -- specifically he said move it down to the line > of the feather or below. i think most people agree here, and if we are lucky someone will come up with a new and better logo. > The other main point was that there's two table of contents -- the left nav > bar and the table of contents below. He thought that was somewhat > confusing, and maybe just integrated with the sidebar nav (or some title > bar nav (site vs. content navigation)). i agree on this point but dont see a proper way to avoid it in the current designs around > He also said the side bar navigation design in boxes makes you want to > click on the box, yet with the style sheet design you have to click on the > actual text. I agree that's a bit awkward. akward, but you'll soon get the hang of it :). well, in a way im serious. i think i see what your point is but in my opnion too many nice designs have gone out of the window because of either userability-reasons and/or hanging on to old-skool conventions. at one point in my web-experience i found it strange that some links wasnt underlined, today that is pretty normal and accepted. have you ever looked at un-experienced web-users? it is not like they afraid to click on anything on a page (and often doubleclick :-)) so in that sense i think they'll soon get the hang of it:-) > Finally, I never saw the argument for not using tables (I suppose I could > search the archive ;). you'll find some > I think it's cool when CSS works, but there's a > large number of clients where it doesn't work. Netscape 4.0x is still very > common, and it doesn't work in that browser. Any idea what percent of > browsers visiting modperl.apache.org are browsers that won't render that > page? I doubt people will upgrade their browsers just because the > modperl.apache.org site doesn't display correctly. i think if we keep strict html/css there will be minor damage for non-css browsers. i mean it is not like those users cannot read the content and navigate on the site, it will just not look the same (i hope). you mention it (http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/mod_perl_site/var_c/) does not work in Netscape 4.0x. do you mean it looks like crap or is it something that litterally doesnt work? i use netscape 4.79 and everything is ok (only slighly worse than ie 5.0 and opera 5.0, all macintosh) thanks again ./allan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]