Jonathan M. Hollin wrote:

:: Well, do you folks agree that having a contrasting bg helps :: to make the :: content stand out? Light bg is not constrasting. and makes :: the boxes ugly.

I agree that a contrasting background works well, but my personal
preference would lean towards a lighter background rather than a darker
one.


sure, let's see a few examples of using lighter bg's and decide then. what bg's do you have on your mind?


:: Well, I beg your pardon, but both fixed size fonts :: approaches are simply :: wrong. What if I'm almost blind and I need to have huge :: fonts? What if I :: want to squeeze as much text as I can in one page, and want :: to use the :: smallest readable fonts? If you go with fixed fonts you go :: against user.

I didn't think of that - you're quite right.  Relative sizes are easily
implemented in CSS and we should definitely do this.


good!


:: IMHO, using relative sizes: +1, -1, +3, etc. is the right :: way to go. No :: cross-platform headaches and heated discussions about :: picking 'pt' ve :: 'px'. While I'm not a designer, I've happened to design a few sites :: which forced me to read a lot on design issues, and that's :: one of the :: first things that you learn. You don't "sell" your product for win95 :: user with IE4, you "sell" it to tens of platforms, with hudreds of :: browsers which half of them are broken (not following standards)

I agree in theory.  The reality is somewhat different though - the
statistics lean towards IE and NS almost exclusively.  However, this is
the whole point of a 100% standards compliant website - which our
intrepid designers have all worked so hard to achieve.  We could say,
"the mod_perl website is 100% standards compliant - if it doesn't
display correctly in your browser, then contact your vendor" - but do we
really want to do this?  I have my opinion (which you all know by now
:-) ), what does everyone else think?


Are you talking in general or regarding using the relative font sizes?


:: huh, this png won't load in mozilla.

... then contact your vendor!  :-)
Stas, I've converted this to JPEG and it's available at:
http://wypug.digital-word.com/miscellaneous/mysql_logo.jpg


thanks, Jonathan, there are other ways to download images :) I've managed it. The point was that it didn't render in mozilla. and I'm sure that it doesn't render in earlier NS (does it render in the latest NS4) and it was even crashing when seeing png. So I'm not sure how they have decided to use png.


:: > Along these lines, perhaps we could also come up with a :: tag line (like :: > MySQL's "Speed, Power and Precision" - http://www.mysql.com/)?
:: :: yet another idea for a wider forum contest ;)


Sure - but let's get the website finalised first eh? ;-)

of course.

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