allan wrote:


I think the main point is that navigation should be there, but it's not
the purpose of the site. Therefore it shouldn't standout the same way
the content does.


on the other hand, if the navigation stands out its easy to
find what you want in the content area and that _is_ a major
purpose of the site, no?


nope, the navigation doesn't help you at all to find a thing in the content area once you've landed on the page you want to read. The only useful navigation function at that moment is 'top' (and toc's index).

i would rather have a harder time
reading the documentation and still easily be able to find
my whereabouts than the other way around. (i am not saying
any of the designs live down to that - its just in the sense
of what is important to stand out visibly on our web-site)


I think I know where your view is coming from -- you work with sample pages which don't represent the reality. (but of course useful for developing). On the opposite I'm always testing with real content.

If you look at the real pages (e.g. testing.html) you will realize that you spend much more time with the content rather than navigation. And our goal is to help mod_perl users to have an easy access and per-use of the documentation, which as a side effect should reduce the number of repetitive questions on the list. Of course the whole project was started to make the navigation better. But still remember that on perl.apache.org people spend 99% of their time reading, 1% navigating.


i cant overcome more debating back and forth and i think im
getting "narrow"-minded in the way i would like to persuade
people to see the light - now i just like to be persuaded by
a brillant design :-), so im back to my editor ...


:0)

You are doing a great work so far. Don't get discouraged by my comments, I'm just telling what I think ;)

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