Well, as I've seen before, it's not exactly easy to find what's causing NS4 to crash.
Absolutely ridiculous. All this time and effort wasted in an attempt to support a deprecated web browser client. Statistically NS4 users number between 4% - 6% of our potential users (at the time of writing), as indicated by http://www.upsdell.com/BrowserNews/stat.htm. Yet, for some reason, we've let this (let's be generous) 6% of users occupy such a large percentage of our time.
Now I'm no project manager, but even I can see that this just doesn't make sense - the priorities are all wrong. I understand the desire to have the site visible to all, regardless of platform. I also understand the complexities (and wasted resources) involved in creating an NS4 version of the site (I've done enough web-development in my time).
So, why don't we do those users (and web-developers everywhere) a favour? Use mod_rewrite (or similar) to detect NS4 and send them to a page that advises them to upgrade to a nice, new, shiny browser (with the relevant links). Tell them quite clearly that we're not forcing them to do so, but explain that the mod_perl website (and a huge percentage of others) just plain sucks under NS4. Then we can stop wasting time and finally get our s/gorgeous/your favourite verb/ website live.
Just my personal opinion - vote/flame in the usual way. :-)
Jonathan, this is a corporate BS. 90% of the market is good enough for the company. It's not good enough for us. We are not a corporation trying to enrich itself. We are an information provider, and no discrimination based on OS or the choice of browser is acceptable. Yes, it may look bad in the older or/and buggy browsers, but it should be *usable*. If someone is stack with NS4 for whatever the reason is, what you are saying is f**k that user, let him figure out how to solve his problem... oops, you just lost a mod_perl user and his "word of the mouth", something that shouldn't happen. On one hand you say we need the site look more appealing, so mod_perl will be more wide spread, on the other hand you don't care about those not living on the cutting edge, what's the result?
When this kind of talk starts I'm always thinking that leaving a plain site we have now at perl.apache.org is the best. It works everywhere and nobody argues about it.
Wait till we announce a preview and people will start complaning that something doesn't look good on their favorite browser X platform Y.
Most likely Allan's suggestions of using tables for formatting were the wisest ones and would have saved a lot of grief.
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