Ben,
Thanks for these edits - they're very helpful! I'm adding a new section
at the beginning to explain more what a boot environment is and how
they are useful. I'm also breaking the book into chapters as you suggest.
And, revising "enhanced..." comments and removing repetitive
instructions to become root user...

I think the revised book will be greatly improved. Due to time crunch,
I won't have time for another review cycle, but the finished doc should
be much better looking.
Barbara



On 10/13/08 23:15, Ben Rockwood wrote:
> The following pertains only to "Managing Multiple Boot..."
>
> Barbara.Lundquist at Sun.COM wrote:
>   
>> 2) Managing Multiple Boot Environments in OpenSolaris 2008.11 at
>> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/caiman/files/snapupgrade.pdf
>>
>> Changes in Managing Multiple Boot Environments in OpenSolaris 2008.11:
>> - This is the former Snap Upgrade chapter with new section
>>  added for zones support. 
>> - Upgrade section was moved out of here and into the
>>  Getting Started Guide.
>> - Minimal changes except for new zones support section.
>>   
>>     
>
>
> The content is good, but the feel is wrong. 
>
> Similar to "Getting Started.." it should not be a single chapter
> document.  It needs to be split into the classic "short guide" chapter
> format... Intro, Essentials, Advanced1, Advanced2....  For instance, I
> have years of experience with LiveUpgrade BE's but I'm feeling confused
> and overwhelmed by the book.
>
> Firstly, there is no clear and direct explanation for what BE's are or
> why you want them.  Rather, you have to read through and just pick it up
> here and there as you go.  IMHO, the first page and hense the first
> chapter need to convince them that this is something they should care
> about and indeed fully understand.
>
> As is, comments follow:
>
> * "Advantages of the beadm Utility"; this suggests that this is the
> _better_ way, better than what?  A better title might be "Features of
> the beadm Utility"
> * Any 2 step procedure, where step 1 is "Become root", is needlessly
> complicated.  A bulleted list of subcommands would be more concise and
> clear.
> * The content regarding zones should be a chapter (Advanced1) and the
> 'beadm Command Reference' should be Appendix A.
>
> Even as an advanced user, I'm not sold on BE's... why would I want
> multiple boot environments, why would I go to this trouble?  There are a
> lot of procedures here, doesn't seem worth the hassle.  An introductory
> chapter is required.
>
>
> A closing general comment; throughout many of the documents (not just
> these we're reviewing) there are phrases and suggestions that something
> is "new" or "better" or "improved".... but the userbase is new.  There
> is no official ties back to Solaris10 and even OpenSolaris 2008.5 is
> still really new.  I think its best to think of every reader as brand
> new.   
>
> Let me beat on that point just a bit... the vast majority of all users
> are either coming from Solaris8 or Linux, there are some from Solaris10,
> but those moving from SX or 2008.5 are really tiny and likely aren't
> reading the docs anyway.  Even experienced users are aware that
> OpenSolaris (Indiana) is radically different and decide not to trust
> their existing Solaris knowledge.  Assume the readers are cold, wet,
> confused and need to quickly navigate through the document.
>
> benr.
>   
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