On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 13:11 -0700, Stephen Hahn wrote:

>   The Tools CG already sponsors the Website Project for specifically
>   this purpose.  A key aspect of a new project proposal (that expects to
>   gain Tools CG sponsorship) would be to answer what deficits in the
>   existing project motivate the creation of a new one, and what attempts
>   were made to correct those deficits previously by the proposers?
> 
>   - Stephen

Hi Stephen,
I am not going to try to answer this all at once, since I am still
trying to familiarize myself with this process and the end result is,
I'd just like to help.

>From what I understand (so far) is that the current website-app was
developed, but not in-house. It was outsourced to a company who didn't
do a very clean job. I still don't understand where the choices came
from, or why Jive is used either (perhaps this is for another lesson).
The current status sounds like there is an individual at work trying to
open-source the website application, so then it can be edited to make it
have the functions we require.

Many of these functions, are present in open-source wiki engines that
this project would be able to focus on.

>From the point of view I have been fed, it sounds like the website
project is currently dismantling a wheel, changing parts that keep it
from spinning, and then putting it back together, all so we can then
reinvent it.

I am not saying I have a perfectly clear understanding of what's going
on, I am subscribed to website-discuss, and have yet to find an email
that makes sense of all this. Perhaps you guys can educate me a little
bit on what is the current situation is?

I yearn to get a full answer on what problems actually beyond those
curtains within the website project, but the one thing I see so far is
that the Group, Project, and Portal leaders should be able to control
the read/write permissions on pages within their groups. Something a
wiki easily can do, which always seems more complicated through any
other means.

I will read up what I can, regardless, and hopefully I will be able to
get together a list of the current website-projects weaknesses, and
address them individually. Which is what your really asking.

Thank You,

Christopher Frost


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