Thanks for the reply Michelle.  Congrats on taking a leadership role in the 
Docs community.

The problem with the existing roadmap is that I don't see where the community 
fits into that plan.  Its not untill Phase 3 that the community is involved, 
and then we're only able to pair up with a sponsor.  Along the path DocBook 
comes into the picture, but if SolBook isn't made avalible then I don't see why 
community standards can't be put in place now.  Naturally Epic can't be handed 
out (although it would be really kool), but Epic isn't a requirement, its a 
convience; if we've got SolBook we can use our existing editors and toolchains 
to produce documentation.

I look forward to meeting you at the SVOSUG meeting, but the bulk of the 
authors are here, not at SVOSUG which is limited by physical scope.  Discussion 
and debate needs to occur here.

While I understand that the "writters list" that you maintain is a list of 
internal authors... the _real_ authors list is here: 
http://opensolaris.org/os/blogs/

The direction this community has been on, as reflected by the roadmap and 
discussion to date, seem to be far too limited in scope.  This is all about, it 
seems, allowing external authors to contribute to internal documentation, 
whether that be man pages, help reference, or full-on manuals.  But it is my 
believe that these are of less pressing concern and of those three its man 
pages that are of most interest.  While we'd all love to work on the official 
Sun documentation, there is no attribution model at this time, making 
contribution a questionable thing untill we've figured that out; a classic 
problem for contributions to inhouse techpubs.  

The immediate concern of this community should be, imho, to act as a hub for 
the various documentation efforts occuring across the globe in the community.  
There is current a sort of "us vs them" vibe due to the lack of coordination 
which has lead to massive duplication.  There is the Sun manual on 
docs.sun.com, then there is a PTR book, then there are magazine articles, then 
there are blog entries and online articles, then there is a guy in Norway with 
a site devoted to the topic, so on and so forth.  We have here the oppertunity 
to try and bring all this together and create a unified effort that minimizes 
duplication, encourages involvement and attribution, and provides the most 
targeted and useful set of resources for the people that truly matter most: the 
end users.

We can begin by simply cataloging what exists.  Providing some guidelines on 
how to best coordinate our various efforts.  Enlist experts to work together 
with authors, and vice versa.

The Sun doc team is producing quality documentation and doing a good job.  But 
external authors are producing hundreds of pages of documentation every day.  
If a documentation community is going to be worth its salt it can't stay 
focused purely on what is in reality only a small subset of the true 
information base avalible.

benr.
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