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The following page has been changed by Upayavira: http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/Upayavira The comment on the change is: Bugger. Other wikis are not taking notice of general/LocalBadContent. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ It can be split into two parts, Upaya (skilful means) and Vira (hero). The best way to describe pronunciation is to say that Upaya rhymes with 'Papaya', and Vira rhymes with 'Clearer'. Some day I may record a WAV file and attach it here. To answer one previous question - I don't have a surname, just a name. - masterjin.com - Upayavira 21 May 2003