Cliff Woolley wrote:
On 27 Aug 2002, Yoshiki Hayashi wrote:


http://cvs.apache.org/~slive/manual/

Contains a new draft of the proposed new manual style.  This one is
fully generated using xslt, so all the xml files should be converted.

Sorry to say this now but I prefer previous "wacky" one.


FWIW from the peanut gallery, I kinda did too. :-(

Time for me to make a couple points:

1. There was one main reason I stopped developing the "wacky" style: complexity. If felt it was over-complex both visually and particularly the css and html code. The css code had the advantage that it was externally developed and maintained at style.tigris.org, but I still didn't like using something that seemed difficult to maintain.

2. Let's try to determine exactly what about the original style people like better. Perhaps we can combine the two in a way that will work. Some suggestions:

a) Black-on-white.  I tend to agree that this is preferred.

b) Side-menu listing important stuff seperate from text rather than having the menu integrated from the text. I like this, but I'm not sure how much it is about the "cool" factor. It also leads to the obvious disadvantage of having to put the whole darn page in a table, which is annoying but very common for modern sites.

c) Smaller font. As I mentioned in the original discussion, smaller fonts tend to look more modern and professional, since almost all major websites now use a less-than-default font size. Of course, it is silly to contradict what the user set as their default font, but since almost all sites do it, <small> can almost be considered the default.

d) Other things ??? (I think the header and footer from the new version are nicer, and I also prefer how the section titles are now handled...)

3. There's no hurry in any of this. People who don't care about it should just go on writing the docs in xml. People who do care about can devote whatever time they want to style issues, and hopefully we will eventually settle on something nice.

Joshua.


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