On 14/01/16 01:19, Yann Ylavic wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 1:05 AM, Tom Fredrik Blenning Klaussen 
> <b...@blenning.no> wrote:
>> 
>> The link: https://httpd.apache.org/dist/
>> 
>> does not exist anywhere on https://httpd.apache.org/download.cgi
> 
> Yes sorry, I meant https://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/ 
> (httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ - I missed the /dev/ - is where each 
> release lands before being accepted by the community).

Still does not exist on the page, this time I searched for all
occurences of '/dist/' and inspected them.
Said URL (httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/) links back to
https://httpd.apache.org/download.cgi

I'm assuming you really mean: www.apache.org/dist/httpd/ which is
linked from the page.

> 
>> 
>> The problem is that every single link on this https page is to a
>> http page. If this is a shared source, for the http and https
>> versions, which I suspect it it, this could be fixed by making
>> the href for instance to //httpd.apache.org/dist/
> 
> Is your concern the user's confidentiality (accessing external
> links)? Otherwise, as I said earlier, the way you access the
> tarball is not that important provided you verify its signature, or
> its digests from the official repository only.

Although the users confidentiality is a valid concern, for the purpose
of this discussion I'm assuming a MitM attack.

I understand what you are saying that the proper way is to download
the checksums from the correct source, which is self-evident. Now
assume you're a new user, and do not have this previous knowledge.
This user is security conscious, so the user chooses https on purpose.
He would go into (https://httpd.apache.org), where he would find a
link taking him to (https://httpd.apache.org/download.cgi), at this
point, he would find the link to (http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/),
what I'm saying is in order to have some trust in that link, it
_SHOULD_ be https otherwise assuming you could introduce yourself as a
MitM, manipulating the signatures would be trivial.

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