Hi :)
At last we got a sensible answer from one of the candidates for the BoD 
elections.  

Non-candidates had been fairly unhelpful and hostile in response to a simple 
question turning something that could have been a quick Q&A session into a 
flame-war.  I think people get a bit over-defensive sometimes.  

Anyway to make things a bit more open i am forwarding to you guys my response 
to Michael Meeks along with his statement.  
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Mon, 10/10/11, Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

From: Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board: Michael Meeks
To: steering-disc...@documentfoundation.org
Date: Monday, 10 October, 2011, 11:34

Hi :)
Thanks :)  I'm not going to be at Paris but thanks for the offer.  

Documentation on how to join in with other teams (including the Docs Team 
(following recent upgrades to their infrastructure)) also needs to be done.  

I don't know what UNO is.  It seems to be something that depends on javascript 
or .Net or something??  Seems a bit strange.  Of the links i found this link 
made the most sense 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/FirstSteps/Programming_with_UNO
and even that was a tad confusing imo.  Does the limited guidance on how to add 
a language or new translation push people into using UNO?  

Oddly we don't get many calls for how to translate or how to add a new language 
and when we do people seem satisfied with the links we give them to specific 
teams
 or to the global translations list.  We do need to get decent guides for those 
things but we get a lot more people asking about how to join in with 
programming and people seldom seem happy with what we can give them.  

It would be good to have a proper LO Guide that reflects LO's direction instead 
of the direction under Sun.  

If there are other guides that could be usefully added to the collection that 
would be great.  Anyone can either edit the page or pass the links to the 
documentation list.  

Anyway, thanks hugely for your considerate reply.  
Regards from
Tom :)



--- On Mon, 10/10/11, Michael Meeks <michael.me...@suse.com> wrote:

From: Michael Meeks <michael.me...@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board: Michael Meeks
To:
 steering-disc...@documentfoundation.org
Date: Monday, 10 October, 2011, 10:11

Hi Tom,

On Sat, 2011-10-08 at 18:02 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
> One of the top priorities for the Documentation Team right now
> is a guide to help people that want to start programming for
> LibreOffice.  

    Cool ! :-) and of course, it's something that can be dead useful. 

> There is already a good one for Extensions 

    Right - and of course, we'd prefer people to write code that can be
integrated into the core cleanly, and have code sharing between
different implementations (it's easier to hack that up, debug it, and
deploy it too FWIW).

> At the moment the Docs Team can only point to
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation#Other_Documentation_and_Resources

    I like the collection; it'd be great to excerpt / re-write some more
functionally focused flows for the things we know happen lots:

    "How to add a new language"
    "How to add a new translation"

    But of course many things are simply not documented at all; and worse
most of the existing docs are *heavily* UNO focused, which is (IMHO) a
big mistake.

    Anyhow - there were some starter tasks I mentioned to David, when
they're done - lets have a call & brainstorm on what more can be done,
and how best to do it; will you be in Paris to discuss ?

    I suspect there is enough out there to dig out and re-hash in a helpful
way. As an example if we systematically discard anything that talks
about
 UNO - and condense what little is left (code structure diagrams /
functional descriptions etc.) I think we might end up with something
quite useful for new core hackers: or at least a nucleus to work from.

    Thanks,

        Michael.

-- 
michael.me...@suse.com  <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot


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