Hi :)
Good work!  Getting 1 cause out of the way would be great.  Sounds likely to be 
the commonest cause of the problem for this team.  Have you already posted a 
bug-report?
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 18/2/12, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Andrew Douglas Pitonyak <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Maybe you should NOT use LO 3.5...
To: [email protected]
Date: Saturday, 18 February, 2012, 22:57

I am now able to cause it to happen every time in the latest version of 
LO (so I found one magic combination). This magic combination does not 
cause a problem in OOo. Certainly there may be more than one cause 
and/or trigger. I have some hope that if we find one cause and trace 
what it does, it may provide incite into other combinations (or even 
prevent the other combinations from causing a problem).

Spent a few hours today making sure that I can reproduce the problem. I 
also spent time poking around the code.

I have seen little to no evidence that anyone is actively pursuing this 
particular bug (which means almost nothing), but I do see that it is 
assigned to someone.

For the trigger that I found, it occurs when auto-save writes stuff out, 
but it does NOT occur if I write the file myself. I have a really long 
shot crazy notion or two, but I know so little about the internals that 
I expect that I am dead wrong.

On 02/17/2012 05:44 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> I suspect there are a dozen or so highly specific combinations of factors 
> that cause the bug.  In which case it would be impossible to isolate the 
> different sets from each other if there was any overlap. 
>
> Lets say that  B=3 causes the bug but only when A is set to 3 or when C is 
> set to 5 but if D=8 when A=3 then the problem doesn't happen unless ....  Add 
> in that we don't know whether  A is the OS in use or the one previously used 
> with the file, or a version of java or phase of the moon or something to do 
> with chicken bones.  Hmm, we can probably discount those last 2.  If devs 
> haven't been able to solve it in several years then maybe the problem needs 
> to be approached differently or maybe it will become obvious during 
> code-clean-up or just magically vanish.
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
>
> --- On Fri, 17/2/12, Jean Weber<[email protected]>  wrote:
>
> From: Jean Weber<[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Maybe you should NOT use LO 3.5...
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Friday, 17 February, 2012, 3:11
>
> You've been lucky. Several of us encountered the problem with a few
> files when using LO 3.4; I can't recall whether it occured with 3.3,
> but I think so. My suspicion is that there is something weird in some
> of our files ... some of which originated in OOo1.x, OOo2.x, or even
> MSWord ... and that weird something triggers the observed behaviour,
> sometimes, for some people, under who knows what conditions. Of
> course, that's just speculation.
>
> --Jean
>
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:50, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
> <[email protected]>  wrote:
>> I had not seen this behavior in a very very long time. I was under the
>> impression that the issue had been fixed a very very long time ago. I have
>> not had good luck with LO lately. Want to search outstanding bugs and such,
>> but the web site appears to be not responding. It was a problem last night
>> as well.
>>
>> Hmm, well, I was able to find a bug that sounds about right...
>> https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=33393
>>
>> Dropped a bunch of time filing bugs and such.
>>
>> Time to eat some dinner then think about sleep. Will continue my pursuit
>> later.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 02/16/2012 08:41 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
>>> Hi :)
>>> Yes, we had this under 3.4.x too.  Apparently it has been a problem since
>>> about OOo 2.1 or something.  People have been trying to keep a back-up copy
>>> of images in a separate zip-file alongside the guides somewhere just in case
>>> it happens.  The zip-files have only been done for a few guides tho.
>>> Regards from
>>> Tom :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Fri, 17/2/12, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak<[email protected]>    wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Andrew Douglas Pitonyak<[email protected]>
>>> Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Maybe you should NOT use LO 3.5...
>>> To: "LibreOffice Documentation"<[email protected]>
>>> Date: Friday, 17 February, 2012, 1:36
>>>
>>> I was editing a simple document for about 30 minutes and then some of the
>>> figures started to disappear with an error message stating that the graphic
>>> could not be read. I saved the file (under a new name) and reopened. Those
>>> graphics still are not there. Opened the original and it is still there.
>>>
>>> Is anyone else using LO 3.5? If yes, have any of you seen this? If not,
>>> beware!
>>>
>>> I am using 64-bit Fedora 16 and I downloaded this from the web site. Guess
>>> I need to file a bug report. I also guess that I need to restart the editing
>>> process using something other than LO 3.5.
>>>
>>> -- Andrew Pitonyak
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