Hi :) That is quite a bit more money than i thought. So, maybe some of that could be used to reward one or 2 of the authors in some small way.
I think probably better if it's more like a medal, or like the DistroWatch rewards system (where people kinda vote informally for which project gets the sundry gift). Perhaps it might be possible to give "karma points" or something as many other projects do. Perhaps the person with the top points gets a reward and anyone achieving certain levels also gets a cash reward? Paying people to do the more glamourous and exciting work while continuing to rely on volunteers for the hardest struggle seems the wrong way around to me. Also there is not enough money to pay people adequately. Since the Docs Team is generating that much money it would be nice if some of that could be regularly donated to TDF's main funds. Also to ODFAuthors since the Docs Team uses resources that ODFAuthors has to pay for. Regular flat-rate payments can significantly help projects, perhaps review the amounts annually. Perhaps around $10/mnth to each? Percentages and a varying amount take time&hassle to arrange with banking systems so a flat-rate means less time gets eaten up on side issues. Ideally i would like to see Jean get at least some sort of regular pay. There is no chance of us paying her what she deserves as she has always done a phenomenal amount with almost no recognition. Her crucial role as Community Development but also in setting up distribution, co-ordination&leadership of the team, liaison with other projects such as ODFAuthors and even a lot of hands-on work with the guides themselves. It's almost entirely due to her that the Docs Team are so much more successful than the Accessibility Team. Since it is the Docs Team that generates the money i think it would be great if they were able to say how they think it should be spent and how much built-up as a reserve. Regards from Tom :) >________________________________ > From: Jean Weber <[email protected]> >To: Tom Davies <[email protected]>; [email protected] >Cc: Kannan Moudgalya <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" ><[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, 23 January 2013, 0:19 >Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: A documentation project for Scilab and >other FOSS > >Responding to a thread on the marketing list, and taking it to Docs as well. > >The general topic of paying some people to work on documentation has come up >before but was not really discussed here. The context was submitting a list of >items to be considered for inclusion in the budget for TDF. > >There are many things on the Docs wish list that no one is working on at this >time, but which could be valuable additions to the delivery of information to >users. Professional quality video tutorials. Well written, up to date, >thorough information targeted at specific audiences such as business >installations, accessibility, and others. Training materials (workbooks). And >so on. Some of these could be specified and contracted to appropriately >skilled and knowledgeable people, to be paid for. This would not overlap with >work being done on the user guides, FAQs, etc, by volunteers. I think it's >well worth considering. > >If this were to occur, I would certainly not envision that consideration for >payment would be restricted to TDF members. Did anyone suggest that might be >the case? > >Where would the money come from? Probably the general budget, from TDF's >fund-raising, but only if we made a case for it. BTW, book sales raise around >$100-$200 per month; this is not enough to cover many payments for work done, >but it's quite a bit more than what Tom suggests as "barely enough to cover >the costs of appearing in such places in the first place with perhaps a little >bit to cover contingencies and maybe push into other similar distribution >networks." > >--Jean > >On 23/01/2013, at 1:04, Tom Davies <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi :) >> I don't see how this would be possible in LibreOffice and even if it was i'm >> not sure it wouldn't back-fire. People currently or previously in the Docs >> Team might be offended that it wasn't offered earlier. People doing similar >> levels of work in other areas might get offended. >> >> Of course we already know that some people are getting paid to do work >> (mostly by supporter organisations (either listed or unofficial supporters)) >> and others volunteering. That doesn't seem to create problems so perhaps >> this wouldn't either. >> >> If TDF do go this route then as a volunteer i don't know whether i would >> prefer it if people getting paid were excluded or not. Generally i think >> that i personally would prefer it if everyone was treated equally regardless >> of whether they were paid or not. If it was restricted to just official >> members of TF then i probably would be a little upset because i see a LOT of >> non-members doing a LOT of the work. >> >> Also i don't see where the money would come from. Would it be paid out of >> the fundraising done by TDF? The official guides themselves don't raise >> enough revenue to cover such costs and that was not the reason for selling >> through Lulu and Ubuntu's place. The amounts raised that way are >> deliberately tiny and are barely enough to cover the costs of appearing in >> such places in the first place with perhaps a little bit to cover >> contingencies and maybe push into other similar distribution networks. >> >> Regards from >> Tom :) >> >> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Kannan Moudgalya <[email protected]> >>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sunday, 20 January 2013, 2:36 >>> Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] A documentation project for Scilab and >>> other FOSS >>> >>> Dear All, >>> >>> I am not sure whether the documentation project that we have implemented >>> for Scilab, Python and a few other FOSS systems will be applicable, or even >>> relevant, to LibreOffice. Let me explain the Scilab Textbook Companion >>> (http://scilab.in/Textbook_Companion_Project) below: >>> >>> 1. Worked out examples from standard textbooks (mainly engineering) >>> are coded in Scilab and uploaded on to our portal >>> 2. We pay honoraria to the creators (about $200) and to the reviewers >>> (about $100) >>> [...] >>> >>> If the above is not applicable for LibreOffice, can we think of another >>> crowd sourced, targeted, activity? If by chance such a crowd sourced >>> activity is already available for LibreOffice, we would like to explore it >>> for India. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Kannan >>> > >-- >Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
