Hi :) I think it would be good if we could list some of the instructional videos that Kannan gave the marketing list a link to.
t seems to be an excellent and well thought out plan to provide a series of videos to help people learn how to use LibreOffice and other OpenSource programs. Regards from Tom :) >________________________________ > From: Kannan Moudgalya <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013, 2:05 >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice's role in a MS Office world > >Because of the free workshops we give on LibreOffice (see the free >instructional videos available at >http://www.spoken-tutorial.org/list_videos/%3Ffoss%3DLibreOffice-Suite-Writer%2526language%3DEnglish, > for writer, for example), LO gets used 5 to 10 times more effectively, as >compared to MSO. > >Kannan > > >webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: >> >> I believe that Office 365 is now at 5 devices [desktop, laptop, tablet] for >> $100 a year, with some limitations. Renting an office package is not my >> cup-of-tea. MSO 2013 seems to be $130 to $400 per device to buy. >> >> For this economic times, getting a good working at a free price makes sense. >> Cross-platform between Windows, Mac OSX and Linux systems can be a good >> point as well. >> >> Real world, if a company has MSO deployed already, then not having to buy >> another licenses with any new computer might be a good point. Saving $100 >> or more per new system can really add up. MSO is getting really expensive >> to buy since MS wants the yearly income renting their products will generate >> in the long term. >> >> ODF vs. MSO formats, well since LibreOffice reads and writes MSO formats, >> except for the most complex documents, well, then you do not have to choose >> anytime soon. Since ODF seems to be growing and MSO is loosing market >> shares worldwide, in a few years more and more International and regional >> businesses will be moving to ODF as their default file formats. >> >> It is all region based. >> Canon USA ands Canada does not support Linux drivers, but MOST other >> regional Canon sites do offer Linux Support. That is because there are as >> great a percentage of Linux users in the USA/Canada as in other parts of the >> world. That may change. >> >> Same with LibreOffice and other FOSS packages. Some regions will have more >> percentage of users using it over others. >> >> Some regions and markets may take a lot of push to get them to accept and >> use non-MS products, while others will be easier. >> >> For me, getting users to notice that a free office suite that uses MSO file >> formats is not easy. They just do not trust free. The saying "you get what >> you pay for" is to well a part of our being to realize that there are free >> things that are as good as or better than similar paid packages. >> >> >> On 02/02/2013 01:25 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: >>> Reply inline >>> >>> On 02/02/2013 11:18 AM, Ma Xiaojun wrote: >>>> Hi, all. >>>> >>>> I have experience as a college student in China, Hong Kong, US. >>>> All these three regions seems to be MS Office based; people assume >>>> others have access to MS Office. >>>> China, in particular, generally use MS Office documents even in the >>>> cases that PDF is a better choice, for example, announcements often >>>> use doc format. >>>> I haven't seen any ODF files distributed around except those found in >>>> SFD or LUG events. >>>> >>>> Let's consider some real world cases. >>>> 1. An organization has Windows + MS Office deployment already, which >>>> is at least very common in universities. >>>> Then for whatever reasons, the organization is considering some >>>> alternative options. >>>> A. Apache OpenOffice >>>> B. Google Docs >>>> C. LibreOffice >>>> D. Office 365 >>>> I'd put an honest question: What's the advantages of LibreOffice in this >>>> case? >>> Apache OpenOffice and LibreOffice are free/no charge for all users. Google >>> Docs is free for personal use. Office 365, I believe, requires a >>> subscription which can get expensive over time. >>> >>> AOO and LO are installed on the users machine(s) and do not require any >>> Internet access to use. You may need access to sync files with Dropbox or >>> some other similar service. I rate this as major advantage - you are not >>> dependent on an Internet connection. >>> >>> Google Docs and Office 365 require an active connection to use. The main >>> advantage of this is with collaboration with others in theory at least. The >>> major problem is the quality of the connection. >>> >>> LO is ahead of AOO currently in terms of development due the problems AOO >>> had in the transition from Oracle to Apache. Google Docs and Office 365 >>> being "in the Cloud" should always have the most current version available. >>>> >>>> 2. A non-geek bought a PC for her own use, the OS is Linux/Mac OS >>>> X/Windows, and she is considering which productivity suite to use. >>>> A. Apache OpenOffice >>>> B. Google Docs >>>> C. LibreOffice >>>> D. MS Office >>>> E. Office 365 >>>> Still the same question, what's the advantages of LibreOffice here? >>>> You may exclude the Linux case since LibreOffice is often >>>> pre-installed by various Linux distributions. >>>> From my own experience, the fact that LibreOffice releases seems to be >>>> a disadvantage. >>>> If I help someone else install a particular version of LibreOffice, >>>> that software would never get upgraded without my participation. >>> Installing LO or AOO is no more difficult than installing any other >>> software on Windows or a Mac. The problem is user updating/upgrading on >>> Windows and Mac. LO is addressing this with a notification that a newer >>> version is available in 4.0. >>> >>> The issue of updating software particularly on Windows is thorny one >>> because there is no central Windows database or easy method to update all >>> the installed software. MS only supports their own and all 3rd party >>> software is generally ignored. This is why many vendors have nagware to >>> remind users to update in Windows. >>> >>> The major advantage of LO is it installs a broader suite than many of the >>> MSO groupings. >>> >>> Also, do not forget that major version upgrades of MSO cost money. MS only >>> offers free service packs and patches for the currently supported versions. >>> Also, MS appears to be pushing Office 365 because of its subscription based >>> model. My analysis is for many individuals the subscription is a horrible >>> long term deal because over time you will spend more than if you bought it. >>>> >>>> I understand "free and open source", "free of charge" are big >>>> advantages for some people. >>>> Are they enough for general marketing? I guess not. >>> If your have budget problems then price is major issue. Being able to >>> afford a good office suite is important to many. So the price point ($0) is >>> important for LO and AOO for any and all versions. With either one can >>> upgrade to the latest version with only a time investment. >>> >>> The marketing problem for LO and AOO is that neither can afford massive >>> advertising campaigns which MS or Apple can do. Our advertising is more >>> word of mouth. >>>> For me, less bloated, available as portable app seems to be the >>>> biggest advantage of LibreOffice. >>>> I'm also expecting LibreOffice being available in Android and Web world. >>> One issue to remember is that most users will not use all the features >>> available in any office suite. Unless you need a very specific feature, >>> IMHO all the options will have the features you probably need. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Ma Xiaojun >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >-- Bridging digital divide through FOSS and helping migration to Scilab from >Matlab >http://spoken-tutorial.org/CSI.pdf >http://spoken-tutorial.org/What-is-a-Spoken-Tutorial-2-Minute-Video-English >http://spoken-tutorial.org/What_is_a_Spoken_Tutorial_English >http://scilab.in/Textbook_Companion_Project >http://scilab.in/Lab_Migration_Project > > >-- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
