Personally, I love this string. I tried to sign up to help with the documentation for Base since that is where my interest lies. I got as far as joining this mail list. My experience is more in line with Tom's description. I would really appreciate someone volunteering to "hold my hand" as I take a second shot at joining the documentation team. Anyone want to step up??? ;-)

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On 08/13/2013 12:09 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
Good to see such a positive message again.  That's a good one for letting 
people know how relaxed and friendly this list is.  Nice work there!  Is this 
slap carefully timed to try to catch new people as they join they to discourage 
them from daring to comment?  People used to chatter happily on this list about 
all sorts of things, such as usage of certain words, etymology and ways of 
trying to get different documents to be consistent with each other.  Now people 
seem scared to say anything.  Is this atmosphere encouraging people to join in?

Trying to pretend that this list is easy to join really doesn't prepare for the 
reality.  We have had people waiting over a week at times in the past and 
feeling so frustrated with it that they walked off wondering if it was personal 
or something.  Some have even seen other people given logins while they still 
hadn't been given one.

>From the results i got by suggesting that it's not so easy to join in i think 
it might be better to pretend it's really tough as i got more responses this time 
with that approach.  Sometimes people prefer something exclusive rather than 
something too open

If it really is so easy to join in then why don't more people do so?
Regards from
Tom :)





________________________________
From: Jean Weber <[email protected]>
To: Tom Davies <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013, 16:46
Subject: Re: Well wishers from the Users List Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 
[libreoffice-documentation] German Base-Handbuch 4.1 ready


Tom,

Comments like the one quoted below do not help LO at all. How is it
"difficult" to join the Docs team? Is it "difficult" to sign up to the
wiki and to ODFAuthors? A little extra work, perhaps, but no more so
than joining any other team at LO (such as Marketing or QA) and IMO a
lot less difficult than reporting bugs. Also, your comment "it means
signing up to a couple of 3rd party independent sites" is factually
incorrect. There is only one: ODFAuthors, and even that is not a
requirement. We can accommodate people who do not wish to edit the
source files.

--Jean


On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Tom Davies <[email protected]> wrote:
On 8/13/2013 7:28 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
If anyone can join in and help them translate or help proof-read or get 
screen-shots in English (if needed) then that would be fantastic.  The Docs 
Team is a difficult one to join and it means signing up to a couple of 3rd 
party independent sites, such as ODFAuthors, but they are all a good bunch and 
do good work so once you get past the initial hurdles it's usually good to be 
par of the team.



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