Hi :) If we did copy the worst case scenario is apparently that we get served with a "Cease and Desist" or a "Take down" notice. Since it's a wiki that is easy for anyone to do at very short notice. The problem would be if we published in printed form and were then expected to recall all published copies.
Plus the chance of being caught out is very small. Apache are not the enemy. Most of them are us too anyway or nearly us. When OpenOffice was owned by Oracle there was a much higher risk of them scrabbling around trying to find any way of making any money and causing us any trouble they possibly could. If Apache tried to take us to court or anything then i suspect that a lot of their volunteers would be quite unhappy or feel a conflict of loyalties. Their customers might object even more. If we don't copy and DO the translations ourselves and the result is much the same as the Apache one then wouldn't that be considered a copy anyway? Could we prove that it was sufficiently different that it couldn't really be considered a copy? So, i think that in this case it is worth taking the risk because the chance of it being a problem is fairly tiny and it's very easy to fix if there is a problem. I'm not sure how i would feel if the Published Guides were copying stuff. I'm not sure how that would play out. If we had to pay people to return any copies of the published guides then it would be a nightmare. On the other hand the risk of that happening is a LOT lower under Apache than it was under Oracle. It's theoretical anyway now that LO has developed so much so quickly. As time goes on the Faq will hopefully get updated quite a bit as new functionality gets added and hopefully will fairly soon reach a point where it's sufficient different that it would be impossible to take action against it. Just my 2cents. I'm not a lawyer and haven't studied copyright law in any country nor international law about it. I've just followed a few threads about this this sort of thing and made some sort of sense of it. Regards from Tom :) On 29 November 2013 06:17, Robinson Tryon <bishop.robin...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Glen Reesor <g...@jenniferandglen.ca> wrote: >> I'm working on translating the Math FAQ from French to English and noticed >> that very good English versions of these questions exist >> athttps://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Formula >> <div> >> Given that LibreOffice forked fromOpenOffice.orgin 2010 (prior to the vast >> majority of content on thatOo.orgpage), is the licensing such that we can >> just copy these FAQs to the LibreOffice FAQs? >> - Glen > > The OOo wiki to which you linked states that "Content is available > under ." [sic] (they appear to have an issues correctly rendering the > copyright/license for the page). Looking at the page source, it > appears the intended target is Wiki:Copyrights[1]. The Wiki:Copyrights > page says the following: > > --- > Portions of the OpenOffice.org Wiki are Copyright 1999, 2010 by > contributing authors and Oracle and/or its affiliates. > > Sections or single pages of this wiki are covered by certain licenses. > If a license notice is displayed at a given wiki page, you may use the > content of that page according to that license. > > In all other cases, the page is licensed under the Apache License, > Version 2.0 (ALv2). > > In posting a new contribution, you are licensing that contribution > under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (ALv2). > --- > > May one combine ALv2 works with CC-BY-SA v3.0 works (under the latter > license) ? I'm not certain, but (to pick one of many possible points > of incompatibility) I believe that the various patent provisions in > ALv2 are not (sufficiently) expressed/protected by CC-BY-SA. > > tl;dr - One may not copy entire FAQs from wiki.openoffice.org -> > wiki.documentfoundation.org (IMHO) > > Cheers, > --R > > [1] https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Wiki:Copyrights > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
