-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi William, Le 12/09/2014 20:59, William Gathoye a écrit : > Hi sophi, > > On 09/12/2014 05:47 PM, Sophie Gautier wrote: >> Well, sorry for not being responsive, that was diner time and >> had people home. > No problem. > >> I don't know what is 'scares', could you explain that ? > Sorry typos, *squares obviously. > >> you're the first person complaining about the need to have the >> wiki mobile compliant. I don't think the documentation is much >> read on phones currently. > It was not only related to the ability to read the wiki easily on > a small screen. > > But I don't understand the point in trying to transform a Wiki as > if it was a simple website.
For this discussion, you should post on the website list or open tickets on redmine for what you want to change. I'm not in charge of the templates used and will only follow the design already there. > > * When the new contributor wants to update some piece of > information on the wiki, when using square boxes, he must double > check if is does not break anything. Too much HTML code. > > * This adds even more complexity if you want to reuse the wiki in > other projects like exporting the documentation content to the > help files, etc. (I saw some mails about this, I even reported a > topic on this in LOWN). > > When I try to compare the MediaWiki to other tools TDF uses, I > have the impression the main website plays a really minor role > here. The wiki seems at the contrary to embrace every others > platform. yes, that is the primary tool used by the community, websites are only for download and statical infos. > > Even if you are not redesigning the whole wiki, here are some easy > improvement ideas: > > * Like on the ArchLinux wiki [1], integrate the website menu on > the wiki (2 simple PHP include instructions). > > * Merge the wiki menu top bar template with the website menu: just > a bit more content to add in the "Contribution" tab. > > * Why is the language list located at the top in the wiki while > you have the default left margin dedicated to this usage? --> > Losing vertical space for no reason. > > * Why are you adding so much ways to access a simple information. > So much Welcome pages. Just use the welcome pages from the wiki, > instead of rewriting exactly the same content in > http://www.libreoffice.org/community/docs-team/ --> Basically most > of the main website pages should link directly to the wiki. > > * Each team is using different layouts on the wiki. Keep It Simple > Stupid. > > * Using dedicated ODT files for all documentation adds too much > complexity to solve a simple issue/typo. I just got bored to log me > in to OdfAuthors, aka "the documentation team abomination". > >> I'll ask Dennis' help here and will apply the templates he has >> done. > Yet another evidence, a contributor nearly needs web development > skills to be able to write wiki content now. > >> I won't redesign all the wiki, but only keep the look and feel >> currently applied by Dennis. But again I'll ask him the best way >> to achieve it, he has done a lot of work on the templates and >> the pages. > The simplest way to avoid content duplication, and to give the > user the impression he is always travelling on the SAME platform is > to have the same menu everywhere. Again Arch Linux is, I think, an > example to follow. > >> You still can do it after I've worked on them :) > On the Arch Linux wiki I do not hesitate to merge pages, etc. > Here, I'm still rather new in active contribution. ;-) so go on website and discuss the design with the wiki admin team (but be aware that several NLPs won't follow either). > >> Thanks for highlighting the work done by the project! > Great pleasure, LOWN acts as a summary for myself and others, as a > help for the annual report, and as a marketing tool. As I already told you, the annual report will be based on the pad info, one place for the writers is the best and a global overview is wanted, so add the info you see relevant to it. Kind regards Sophie - -- Sophie Gautier [email protected] Tel:+33683901545 Co-founder - Release coordinator Certification Committee Member The Document Foundation -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUE+SaAAoJEPL4wtZQX4TTwP4H/iz5yEBPIE8pUqHJyvw1/8FY 9d7TOyfkmDGQ3gQoFOsh5ObtBZDI23cJVYiGFbB8GYElm6blTkmXXfPOxCB6yz87 8Rs+Qqo+zm75BXOQP4udhFDmgDIAY8PFnDE5bnayRyXlqt+RXipxVIN1k9ErkfMW Sk4mvTAC0hkqNpco1XvmxGmUhm77u74mcGXvAaapwL4WG5nxmsUhYUimyTlI/lfQ 3/6rzHKteZi2TUL6hbdQsbU+cUNR7B5CIOqdKS6npej/xWqTE6XkcEjXPSzKDQw/ nlG2Slemw373V4Vc5yjIc9zXqFiUxMo2R5JN51D8oA88fW169R8KhpkQzG988bg= =Jc4m -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
