Hi,

Thanks for your reply~


In China, the awareness of copyright is not very strong in some areas. For 
example, many people do not think that things like piracy are serious 
problems.Even if they probably understand the importance of copyright, they 
will ignore this in their habits.

In China today, the public's copyright awareness is developing at a high 
speed.In this development process, what kind of copyright agreement is used to 
actively and efficiently guide the public's copyright awareness is something 
that needs to be considered.


This topic may require a lot of communication to discuss.It doesn't matter, 
because the Chinese version is ready now, I need to upload as soon as possible.

I will use the same copyright agreement as the English version in the 
Simple-Chinese version(GPL3/CC-BY4,not CC-BY-SA4).In this way, everyone can 
benefit from the book first.In the future, we will look for opportunities to 
exchange ideas about copyright.




Thanks and best wishes,
Yichuang驿窗




At 2019-05-04 20:38:00, "Drew Jensen" <drewjensen.in...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,


Comments in line


On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 3:38 AM 驿窗 <class...@163.com> wrote:

Thanks for your reply~


Maybe I didn't make it clear in the email.



------First------

The agreement statement of the document:
“This document is Copyright © 2018 by the LibreOffice Documentation Team. 
Contributors are listed below. You may distribute it and/or modify it under the 
terms of either the GNU General Public License 
(http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html), version 3 or later, or the Creative 
Commons Attribution License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/), 
version 4.0 or later.”


( Note: Creative Commons Attribution License = CC-BY )
( Note: Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike = CC-BY-SA)


According to the statement, we can distribute the document only under the 
license of CC-BY 4.0 : Creative Commons Attribution License (version 4.0 or 
later).


So, the first thing is, changing the license to the only agreement of  Creative 
Commons Attribution License (version 4.0 or later) is ok.


Then, the distribution behavior under the term of the license of CC-BY-SA 4.0, 
is in line with CC-BY 4.0 ( Creative Commons Attribution License)requirements.


So, I think we can distribution the document only under CC-BY-SA 4.0.


I would say, strongly, no that is not allowed nor desirable. Precisely because 
it restricts the rights passed on the a consumer of the work.






------Second------
Why change the agreement?
Without prejudice to the interests of the distributor, CC-BY-SA 4.0 respects 
the original author more than CC-BY 4.0: Creative Commons Attribution License 
(version 4.0 or later). I think this is the reason why the wiki page choose
CC-BY-SA(instead CC-BY).
And, I think that the best way to respect the original author is to choose 
CC-BY-SA instead of CC-BY.

Sometimes, in some places, CC-BY is not rigorous enough.


Well, I could ask what places those are. But I would also guess that 'those 
places' are why CC-BY and not CC-BY-SA was selected in the first place.


Again, this is just my opinion. 


Best wishes,


Drew 
 

I hope that when the Simple-Chinese version is distributed later, it will be 
able to fully include the English version of the original author information 
and how it will be distributed.


------Third------
What I mentioned in the email is to change the Simple-Chinese book's license, 
NOT the English book's license.


In my Simple-Chinese version book:

The contents of the copyright are exactly the same as the original English 
version, including contributors (current edition and previous edition), no 
changes.

And, the copyright page number is the same as the English version: number 2, 
after the cover page.

And, using the same font size, the same font type, the same font color, and the 
same page layout as the English version book.

------Fourth------
Done. The above is my plan.
But before the distribution, I want to ask the documentation team member or 
original author for advice.


------------
So, can I choose CC-BY-SA4.0 instead of GPL3/CC-BY4.0 ?







Thanks and best wishes,
Yichuang驿窗





At 2019-05-03 20:34:13, "Martin Srebotnjak" <mi...@filmsi.net> wrote:

Hi,


you cannot delete the GPL3 license (or change a license, even if it is very 
very similar), as the previous iterations (now parts) of the text were 
published under those terms and conditions. Unless you get direct approval from 
*all* the authors of those previous versions (published under those two 
licenses), you cannot do that yourself.


Lp, m.



V V pet., 3. maj 2019 ob 14:36 je oseba 驿窗 <class...@163.com> napisala:

Hi,


I'm translating the LibreOffice Getting Started Guide 6.0 from English to 
Simple-Chinese, and I will finish the translation work and upload the 
Simple-Chinese version book(Getting Started Guide 6.0) in this month.


Before upload, I want to change the License to CC-BY-SA 4.0 (Refer to the 
bottom right corner of this 
link:https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Main_Page)(and here CC-BY-SA4: 
https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/ ) in the Simple-Chinese version 
book, and, I will delete the GPL3 and CC-BY4.


Can I?




Thanks and best wishes,
yichuang驿窗

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