yep will get photos and actually the Korff has been cut off a fair bit at
rear and looks better from side. Wish rain would stop so can go to Gulf and
give it heaps of hot weather to really give it a test    Macca

On 20 September 2010 11:33, IAN G WILLIAMS <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Laurie,
>
> Im really intertested in the air outlet design.  The work we did putting
>  the L2400 in the Grob 109 clearly indicated the cooling issue was a major
> one (ref Macca)   so we put an airspeed indicator across the engine ...
> pressure on top and static below.
> We made the baffles as tight as a fishes bum so no leakage except around
> the cylinders  (ref Limbach tech note)
> When we started the flight testing the "engine" airspeed was about 5 kts
> SLOWER than the IAS.  ( gave us a starting point) We made various flanges
> around the exit and came up with a final design which gave an indication
> 15Kts FASTER than the IAS.  (Low airspeed only) which I thought was real
> good.  Resulting oil temps around 80 and head temps in the 180 area.
> A climb at best climb speed and max continuous power the temps did rise a
> little but still well in the range Macca thinks is OK.
> I thought the Korff design was a bit ugly. Ours is also a bit ugly but
> still retains a nice side profile of the 109.
>
> Will get my camera charged up and will send you a pic or 2. to see what you
> guys think.
>
> Best regards
>
> Ian W.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Laurie Hoffman <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Mon, 20 September, 2010 12:07:36 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [DOG mailing list] improving the wheel
>
> Hi Ian,
> Any chance of a pic?
>
>
> *Regards*
>
> *Laurie Hoffman
> 46531233*
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Ian Mc Phee <[email protected]>
> *To:* DOG LIST <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Mon, 20 September, 2010 9:39:06 AM
> *Subject:* [DOG mailing list] improving the wheel
>
> IMPROVING ENGINE COOLING
>
> THe air out if engine is always important and ideally the out area should
> be 1.5 times min the area of in air at the prop (think 1.5 is the figure)
>
> Original dimona had gills on the underside going in, then later models head
> these gills extending outside. Tech Bul 44 says add a lip to kick out air
> and suck out more from inside.  Then I saw Dave goldsmiths Dimona L2400 with
> a big push down panel underside done it Koff and co mod to L2400.  I made a
> mould of that and several people are using same including Russell White on
> his Grob 109A. It was an improvement
>
> Over last week Allen Rundell convinced this koff and co (L2400 suck out)
> outlet was too small and we cut into it with angle grinder and then put a
> 3cm big curved lip to suck out the air.  Boy did it make a difference and we
> may have to install a cowl flap (prob too cold on cruise) and add a bit of
> cardboard in front of part of the oil cooler infact try as I might on full
> power I could not get oil temp above 72degC in climb and now CHTs are down
> by another 10degC. (now just <180deg C +/-2deg and STABLE) This is with our
> Sauer S2500 engine (93hp), but our oil cooler is on underside of prop with a
> lip to scoop in the air.  Previously oil temp would go to 95-100 degC if you
> kept the power on full.
>
> TO explain we did a big curve going in 40% the length of the panel and then
> the 3cm lip which sticks down at about 40deg angle to the underside of
> panel. Basically the whole underside of muffler is exposed when you lie on
> your back..
>
> Germans think they know everything but I can tell you they do not!!
>
> So guess my next design has to be a cowl flap to keep engine warm!!!
>
> Ian M
>
> Ian Mcpheeh
>
>
>

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