Ah I remember those cushions. We replaced them, and they were in poor condition. Not just the covering fabric but the underlying material. Unless I am wrong the core material resembled Coconut Husk or similar. In fact Wolf Hoffmann was spot on with his material selection at the time. Now we have good synthetic alternatives. Personally I think the original material still cuts it for impact absorption without bounce. If it aint broke don’t fix it. Of course if redressing the aircraft then use the Confor foam as Macca mentions as it is good stuff. I still find it hard to believe you have a H36 with only 110 hours on it. Bet you can’t get it to life limit in your lifetime. Heather and I can’t do it with ours and it already has 2700 hours on it. Cheers. Nige.
From: Angel Jimenez Martin Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 7:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [DOG mailing list] Re: [Aus-soaring] Fwd: FW: Safety Cushions I Ian, I have a H-36 only has 110 hours of flight time (many years has been stored in a hangar). Stained the original seats, as you can see from the photo, it is possible that these seats are not safe?. I have to change them? Angel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:22:23 +1000 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] CC: [email protected] Subject: [DOG mailing list] Re: [Aus-soaring] Fwd: FW: Safety Cushions I bought a pad of green from a guy in WA who John Viney recommended but you can get pads of blue (just a little softer) from Aircraft Spruce in USA I find the h36 cushions uncomfortable for me - those horse hair ones. I have a mold seat for a Falke and I took segments out of this mold to make a new seat for RH of Dimona and added confor. I find it great - the space between my seat and the dimona seat pan is filled with 2 pack PU foam. The bonus is less 1kg in weight also. I am not proud of my glass workmanship on this one but next one will be better. I think you need the good shaped seat (even built of VERY hard carved foam) before you add the confor. It all take time but you can not put a price on a good back. Guess cost inc post from USA per seat would be $70 as a guess - think a bit more from WA was $220 I look back on that hk36 that was with the other club here and pranged in trees/creek and it had nice soft yellow original cushions but if Tom had had confor cushion he may not be in a wheelchair today Guess 8 years ago JV gave me a demo of 3cm of foam on a brick wall and punched as hard as he liked and did not hurt. That started my campaign. Jab Falke XJX here has shaped seats (5 layers of 92125 cloth per Katja instructions at Scheibe) with 25mm layer of green Confor. Today I would love to use carbon/kevlar but all Katja tells me we have them for think Eur380 each bur no layup. The original seats were terrible - flat sheet of ply!! It is great to see BGA re campaign on confor use in all gliders and the real add is how after the crash that guy got up and walked around. Ian M On 12 July 2012 07:35, Laurie Hoffman <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Ian, An interesting article. Can you advise of suppliers and typical costs in OZ? Laurie Regards Laurie Hoffman ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Ian Mc Phee <[email protected]> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, 11 July 2012 9:12 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Fwd: FW: Safety Cushions This article from BGA is very worth a read. People who saw the crash may remember after crash he just got out of glider and walked around and I love his statement. Kiwis must have confor in their gliders while the Poms highly recommend it and most club gliders have it. I personally believe it should be mandatory in Australian gliders and just maybe one person who is now in a wheel chair and was sitting on crap makers yellow foam cushions may be walking today. For those that know confor foam give the demo of slamming your fist into 3cm of confor on a brick wall to your friends. As many who know me know I will never sign out a form 2 unless it has confor foam cushion. (nor will I sign out a crap hard to read Altimeter or an undercart without decent green -down and red -up) Lets hope there are a few more AUS gliders using confor cushions this season ou from a wheelchair. Treat cost of confor foam as a one off insurance policy which may save you from a wheelchair for the rest of your life. Ian McPhee From: Terry, Ged (UK) Date: 11 July 2012 17:36 Subject: FW: Safety Cushions To: Ruth Patching <[email protected]>, Robert Moore <[email protected]>, "r.g.richter" <[email protected]>, JR <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, Dave and Jenne Goldsmith <[email protected]> -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 11 July 2012 08:25 Subject: Safety Cushions ----------------------! WARNING ! ---------------------- This message originates from outside our organisation, either from an external partner or from the internet. Keep this in mind if you answer this message. Follow the 'Report Suspicious Emails' link on IT matters for instructions on reporting suspicious email messages. -------------------------------------------------------- To: BGA Full and Assistant Instructors You will be aware that BGA RP 38 recommends that all glider cockpits should be equipped with cushions containing energy absorbing materials. These cushions are widely used in club gliders but less so in privately owned gliders. The BGA has produced a booklet explaining how safety cushions work and how they can reduce injury not just in a crash but in the heavy landings that occur from time to time on instructing flights. We are hoping the booklet will encourage all non-users to install energy absorbent cushions. You can download a copy of the booklet from http://www.gliding.co.uk/bgainfo/safety/documents/safetyfoam.pdf and your CFI has hard copy versions of the booklet for distribution. An EMail highlighting the issue and providing a link to the booklet will be sent to all private owners in the next few days. Please help us by encouraging all pilots to fly with a safety cushion. Best regards Peter Claiden Chairman, BGA Safety Committee ******************************************************************** This email and any attachments are confidential to the intended recipient and may also be privileged. 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