Stemme owners have told me that they are
1- difficult when travelling because airport taxiways are not wide
enough.... can't get around signs and markers etc.
2- expensive and plenty of down time maintaining the prop and drive shaft
system.
3- that the older ones with L2400 engines have heating/cooling issues.
4- they have complicated systems (like fuel) with lots of ADs.

Here is an interesting discussion on Stemme here
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.aviation.soaring/c/w93C7EXcVaE?pli=1

regards
Rob

Rob Thompson
0429 493 828



On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 6:12 AM Michael Stockhill <[email protected]> wrote:

> Friends who sold their Stemme suggested that maintaining it was similar to
> a helicopter, with many time- limited components and labor intensive needs.
>
> I had a Beech Duke once, which was fortunately cheaper to maintain than
> what they described. I got lucky on that one....if you know the Duke's
> reputation.
>
> Michael
>
> On Sun, Apr 7, 2024, 12:43 PM Kristin Nowell <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Stemmes seem overly complex to me - probably high maintenance - but
>> perhaps that is merely sour grapes. I met Karen Stemme at a soaring
>> convention - nice lady - just when they were morphing to tricycle gear.
>> The dimona h36 is rugged, reliable and forgiving - and it has a very
>> excellent knowledge network! I'll keep mine🙂
>> Please send photos of your damage - I have blueprints of the wing, if you
>> need them.
>> Cheers
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 7, 2024, 2:29 PM Kurt Redinbaugh <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Tom, I appreciate that sentiment. However I saw a new Stemme at Reno for
>>> $500k. Hmmm...
>>> Just sayin'
>>> Best
>>> Kurt
>>> p.s. I've often wondered how many H-36's are in the U.S. I know only of
>>> mine and Michael Stockhills up in Montana.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 7, 2024 at 11:03 AM Tom Preisser <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kurt, I wouldn't sell my dimona h36 for all the gold in Fort Knox
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 7, 2024, 4:50 AM Rob Thompson <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The attached images will show you what's involved with a wing skin
>>>>> repair. They are from the underside of a Dimona wing. The images are
>>>>> numbered 1-2-3-4 so view them in that order.
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't done a Dimona trailing edge but normally the foam sandwich
>>>>> just tapers to where the inner and out skins bond together.
>>>>>
>>>>> In Australia, if the repair scheme is detailed in the Maintenance
>>>>> Manual, you can just go ahead and do it. This one is is detailed quite 
>>>>> well
>>>>> and easy to follow in the H36 book
>>>>>
>>>>> If it is not in the manual we need to get approval from
>>>>> Diamond.....Arghhh! .... Ian Williams knows all about this.
>>>>>
>>>>> regards
>>>>> Rob
>>>>>
>>>>> Rob Thompson
>>>>> 0429 493 828
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Apr 7, 2024 at 5:13 PM Kurt Redinbaugh <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you Michael.
>>>>>> The good news is that I am an apprentice Airframe Mechanic and my
>>>>>> mentor is a senior instructor at Abaris here in Reno. Corrie consults 
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> all facets of the composite industry including Boeing, Airbus and most of
>>>>>> the others. He is considered an expert in composite repair and being an 
>>>>>> A &
>>>>>> P, IA there will be no concerns for the repairs needed. Corrie and I have
>>>>>> done many field repairs to gliders, just not mine!
>>>>>> As I am sure you know it is snowing up here in Reno, so enjoy your
>>>>>> time in southern Nevada.
>>>>>> Best
>>>>>> Kurt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 6:24 PM Michael Stockhill <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sad, Kurt,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am more concerned about the trailing edge damage than the puncture
>>>>>>> when it comes to doing repairs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If it is documented with photos before repair, and repaired with
>>>>>>> good craftsmanship, I wouldn't expect the damage described to have any
>>>>>>> impact (hah) on the value.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I figure mine, which is in pretty nice shape, with a $6k
>>>>>>> ADSB/transponder, should be valued in mid $40s. Let's see if anyone else
>>>>>>> has a thought.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michael Stockhill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 6, 2024, 5:40 PM Kurt Redinbaugh <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello all and again many thanks for the prompt and informative
>>>>>>>> response to my posts.
>>>>>>>> My last email concerned a flat tire I had while taxiing back to my
>>>>>>>> tie down spot at Reno-Stead Airfield. I got new tubes and tires 
>>>>>>>> installed
>>>>>>>> Tuesday of this week and had planned to fly Wednesday...
>>>>>>>> Wednesday morning I received an email from an insurance agent
>>>>>>>> saying...I can't make this up...my Dimona had been hit by a Cessna 180
>>>>>>>> owned by their insured!!! Seems the owner had landed, taxied to his tie
>>>>>>>> down and was walking to his car when he heard a noise and turned to 
>>>>>>>> see his
>>>>>>>> C-180 resting against my port wing!!! He says he thought he had set the
>>>>>>>> parking brake and the wind must have blown his aircraft into mine!!! 
>>>>>>>> About
>>>>>>>> 100 yards,,,
>>>>>>>> Son Of A Bitch!
>>>>>>>> My wife and I raced up to the airfield to find that there's a hole
>>>>>>>> punched in the top of my port wing, possibly caused by his propeller 
>>>>>>>> tip
>>>>>>>> and some TE damage where the C 180 came to rest against the wing.
>>>>>>>> Son Of A Bitch!
>>>>>>>> I paid the greedy bastard at the shop for two tubes, tires and
>>>>>>>> labor (labour?) and am still down hard for a while.
>>>>>>>> Sooo my question is what is the present value of a Dimona H-36 with
>>>>>>>> U.S. credentials, and is there any expected loss of value due to the 
>>>>>>>> damage
>>>>>>>> history it now has?
>>>>>>>> Kinda wordy but I'm REALLY upset at the moment.
>>>>>>>> Many Thanks and
>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>> Kurt
>>>>>>>> Dimona N16EB S/N 3660
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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