On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Destailleur Laurent <e...@destailleur.fr>wrote:

> Hum, i see.
> You're right. There is 2 different annoucements to do. I was thinking of
> public one only.
> I think we can progress only if things become automatic. We (and I)
> continue to fails in some tasks as long as they are manual (when they can
> be automatic).
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> I have made enhancement recently into packaging script, to be better:
> For example with 3.5.1, now setting the tag into GIT is done when making
> package so we are sure tag is set and match with package (we frequently
> forgot it). Also pushing to sourceforge is also done by script, saving a
> lot of time.
>
> This is good to hear, also I think the best way is to use the git hooks
post and pre commit and so on. There is plenty solutions about this
kind of things out there.


> I notice that we must now work onto annoucements: For public and also
> communities.
>
> I would not complicate much on this but a simple heads up on the dev list
that a release is coming is nice to have at least a week
earler than the real release rolls out.


> For public, i think to push news into web portal by a script (it can be a
> generic message completed with changelog) so can be scripted too. Then
> publish to social networks is already done automaticaly as soon as news is
> onto portal. But we must wait new version of portal (currently in works) to
> work on submitting news on portal.
>
> Great !


> For community annoucement, we can enhance/add scripts to send a generic
> notice to dev ML. This is not best or enough  but it is an easy step to do.
>
>
In gnome.org there is a announces mailing list, so all the announcements go
there, maybe a simple script can solve to mail the announcement to the
correct ML.

Rgds
Saxa


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> 2014-03-12 21:44 GMT+01:00 Sasa Ostrouska <cas...@gmail.com>:
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>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Doursenaud, Raphaël <
>> rdoursen...@gpcsolutions.fr> wrote:
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>>> 2014-03-12 19:34 GMT+01:00 Destailleur Laurent <e...@destailleur.fr>:
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>>> The release process is a process that takes a lot of work and need a lot
>>>> of talks. It is not possible to do all this talks on one minutes, all at
>>>> same time. That why notification may be sent few days after release, tests
>>>> that all sync with mirrors are ok and that packages are ok.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Laurent,
>>>
>>> I think you're missing that there are two different problems here :
>>> - developper/translators/community announcement
>>> - public/global annoncement
>>>
>>> Making the first announcement would warn everyone involved in the
>>> community that a realease is about to happen.
>>> This way Marcos would not have been surprised by an end user and would
>>> have had the perfect answer : "The release is not _yet_ official, please
>>> wait and refer him to the release process rules" and Saxa would have known
>>> he needed to hurry for it's change to be integrated in the next release.
>>>
>>> I completely agree with you here, other projects do exactly that way,
>> even gnome which is huge project do anouncements
>> with exact dates for the release and they do start pushing out on the
>> servers the tarballs few days earlier.
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>>> Your view is valid for the second case, for which I completely agree
>>> with you :
>>> It should only be done once we're sure everything went smoothly but you
>>> can't prevent people from monitoring sourceforge.
>>>
>>> To be honest I have not even known that this project is using this
>> sf.net functionality :).
>>
>> Rgds
>> Saxa
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>> Anyway, our process is far from perfect and needs some love.
>>> I'm ready to help as much as I can but the way I work, I prefer to raise
>>> a consensus before doing any work hence my call for comments on the wiki.
>>> (BTW it's missing talk pages that are usefull for this kind of work.)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
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