How does coders works actually ? I see that it's eldy who make most of the
commit history (I suppose the most of the codebase too).
I see quite often message about people who are open to help/contribute,
that a good sign, does there is a platform/way to speak about it in live ?
Like a slack group, which will be more appropriate in this case because
there is a need to discuss a lot about what next will be.

Organization (https://wiki.dolibarr.org/index.php/Statuts_de_l%27association)
is still alive ? The last board meeting seem to be from 2013 ?

Regards,

Mickaël PENHARD
Alvaria SASU - CEO


Le lun. 14 janv. 2019 à 21:04, Sasa Ostrouska <cas...@gmail.com> a écrit :

>
>
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 6:37 PM Mickaël PENHARD <
> mickael.penh...@alvaria.io> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I was thinking to be kind(positive), sorry if it's not interpreted like
>> that.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mickaël PENHARD
>> Alvaria SASU - CEO
>>
>> Le lun. 14 janv. 2019 à 18:32, Christophe Battarel <
>> christophe.batta...@altairis.fr> a écrit :
>>
>>> Thank you Mickaël for sharing your thoughts with us.
>>>
>>> I do not know if you have already done it but you should propose your
>>> ideas by creating issues and pull requests on github.
>>>
>>> And by the way, do not hesitate to be gentle with those who are carrying
>>> this great project on their shoulders for years ;-) even if new ideas are
>>> always welcome, you should communicate in a more consensual way i think...
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Christophe
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14/01/2019 17:31, Mickaël PENHARD wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi maintainers,
>>>
>>> Are you openminded to change the way you work on this projet ? There is
>>> a lot of improvement that can be made, the simplest to begin with is
>>> commit, I ask 3 or 4 times already if it's possible to use commit as it
>>> should be, but nothing change ?
>>>
>>> About commit, it's really a pain to find something and follow upgrade in
>>> this context, stop the races version which is absolutely not right, the
>>> v1.0.0 it still not available because not all functionally that was suppose
>>> to work (base on which is in the wiki, and what is in master version do not
>>> do).
>>>
>>> Like this commit :
>>>
>>> https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/commit/ab9fe1a757edb7bf0036e087913787d4ece7e359
>>> Why did you put all the garbage of .less/.svg which is not use as I can
>>> see in the code, only the compiled css + compiled font is used (like 10
>>> files at max).
>>>
>>> Here a simple list :
>>>
>>> 1. Commit != CTRL+S
>>> 2. Commit message should be clear about what it fix/update
>>> 3. Stop merge commit on all this versioning ecosystem which not usefull
>>> at all
>>> 4. Everytime a file is edit, CLEAN IT remove all tabs => space
>>> 5. Everytime a function is edit use variable with proper names, not
>>> test, thing, object, blabla...
>>> 6. Rename table name, all in english, rename inconsistency field example
>>> : (facture->facnumber, facture_fourn->ref)
>>> 7. Stop any other new development before everything which is available
>>> really work, like accountancy
>>> 8. It's not possible to refactor (less work to redo everything), but
>>> keep old code style clean as much as possible will be a start.
>>> 9. I actually manage teamworkers on development projects, and like I
>>> said often, let MySQL do the work for you as much as possible, so when you
>>> do query like for VAT functions, do the simple math directly in MySQL, all
>>> the code of MySQL is reviewed/controlled and each fonction is optimised as
>>> much as possible, you will never (or in rare case) bit them on that task,
>>> so do it in SQL cleaner/faster :).
>>> 10. Avoid sql slit like in accountancy $sql .= .= .= .= use sprintf, or
>>> add a function to make format like :
>>> https://stackoverflow.com/a/17372566/1891179
>>> 11. Avoid multi copy of the same code
>>> 12. Wrong usage of jdate( it should be link to sql result object not db
>>> object, which make it a pain to use, because of the need to make db
>>> instance follow dataset.
>>> 13. etc...
>>>
>>> Thanks for reading,
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Mickaël PENHARD
>>> Alvaria SASU - CEO
>>>
>>>
> Hi Mickel, great good points from my point of view. At least on the
> translate all to english would really be good to see.
> Step by step we can come to some of those issues be solved. I am ready to
> help with. But at the end on an OSS software
> project with a lot of people working on it its really difficult to make
> sure everybody proposes with the same rules his code.
>
> Rgds
> Saxa
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