[I mistakenly sent this to paul gordon only as opposed to the list]

lets move from statements to specifics. here is the board: 
http://www.icann.org/general/board.html

to me, and not to single people out, but each of joi ito, veni markovski 
and njeri rionge clearly represent only the interests of Internet users. 
all came from the nominating committee.

I am not sure who you would identify as the "intellectual property 
owners seats on the board", but please let me know so I can oppose them 
at the next meeting.

to put a finer point on it, you are really saying that direct voting by 
individuals would produce a better result than the nominating committee. 
that can certainly be argued and, being on the nominating committee I am 
admittedly subjective.

that being said, I think a look at the specifics shows that the 
nominating committee board appointments have been strong in knowledge 
and commitment and that there isn't an IP flak among them.

of course it is always easier to take that position then to try and 
participate in the at-large. unfortunately that is perhaps the greatest 
challenge of this, or any system.

again, if any of you would like to get involved we would be happy to 
help you do so.

Regards
Elliot Noss

Paul Gordon wrote:

 >
 > On Aug 27, 2005, at 12:25 PM, elliot noss wrote:
 >
 >> paul, users have a voice in ICANN. the at-large is getting more 
effective every day. the biggest challenge BY FAR is finding people  who 
will actually spend a little time on the process. if you would  like to 
get involved we would be happy to help you do so.
 >>
 >
 > Does it have any seats on the board?
 >
 > Why do intellectual property owners have seats on the board while 
registrants (the people who actually PAY for most of the domains in 
existence) don't?
 >
 > Until ICANN opens up a large number of seats to Registrants and gets 
  rid of the corporate ring-in's that have been sitting there passing 
resolutions from day one (when CORE had it's dirty little hands in  the 
proceeds) it's all a farce.
 >
 > Especially when the USG can suddenly decide it doesn't like the .xxx 
  decision and veto ICANN.
 >
 >
 >> the nominating committee (disclosure: I am a sitting member) also 
explicitly puts a filter of representing the general interests of  users 
on all appointments. that is why you get folks like joi ito  on the board.
 >>
 >> further, if ANY of you would like help taking a more active role in 
  the ISPC or BC (business constituency) where you would be able to 
advocate on behalf of users, we would also be happy to help.
 >>
 >> (not directed at paul) one of the most fascinating takeaways from 
my involvement in ICANN is that people have a much greater interest  in 
passion in having a right than in actually using it.
 >>
 >> ICANN is far from perfect but needs people like you to help make 
positive change.
 >>
 >> Regards
 >> Elliot Noss
 >>
 >> Paul Gordon wrote:
 >>
 >>> Read the eNom registrant agreement. It was changed - quite some 
time  back - so that they could register names in the registrant's  name 
WITHOUT notification, and also change the terms of the  agreement 
WITHOUT notification. (I think - IANAL, YMMV etc)
 >>> Yet another reason why registrants DESPERATELY need a voice in  the 
  ICANN process.
 >>> On Aug 26, 2005, at 2:37 PM, Jim McAtee wrote:
 >>>
 >>>> I figure someone here will know what's going on.  Maybe you've 
seen  this
 >>>> with one of your customers.  The below email was just sent to 
someone with
 >>>> a domain registered with eNom.  The name servers for the domain 
are at
 >>>> name-services.com, which is an eNom site/service.
 >>>>
 >>>> The domain [something].com has been registered with eNom for a 
couple of
 >>>> years, but the .info version has never been registered (trust  me, 
  it's a
 >>>> made up name and nobody wants it).  If I do a WHOIS on 
[something].info
 >>>> then it looks like a legit registration, including all the identical
 >>>> contact information for [something].com.
 >>>>
 >>>> If you go to the www.[something].com you see a page similar to
 >>>> http://www.name-services.com.  Follow a link "Why am I seeing 
this web
 >>>> site?" and you get an offer to register the domain.
 >>>>
 >>>> Is this crap legal?  How the hell do they get away with registering
 >>>> domains in someone's name when there has been no action taken to 
do  so?
 >>>> Is eNom using their ability as a registrar to register then delete a
 >>>> domain name in order take advantage of their own domain registrants?
 >>>>
 >>>> The topper is sending spam in the form of a fake WDRP compliance 
  notice
 >>>> for the fake registration.
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>> ----- Original Message -----
 >>>> From: "WDRP Compliance" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >>>> To: --------------
 >>>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 1:06 PM
 >>>> Subject: Important Notice: Please Verify Contact Data for your  Domain
 >>>> Name(s)
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>>> Dear Domain Holder,
 >>>>>
 >>>>> This message is a reminder to help you keep the contact data 
associated
 >>>>> with your domain registration up-to-date.
 >>>>>
 >>>>> As of October 31, 2003 we are required by the Internet 
Corporation  for
 >>>>> Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) to send you this reminder by the
 >>>>> Anniversary date of each registered Domain Name that is subject 
to  the
 >>>>> terms and conditions of that organization.
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Below is a list of domain names with your email address listed 
as the
 >>>>> registrant or administrative contact.  The current contact 
information
 >>>>> associated with the domain may be verified by following the link
 >>>>> provided.
 >>>>> If any of the contact data is inaccurate, it must be  corrected. 
   If the
 >>>>> contact data is accurate, no further action is required to 
comply  with
 >>>>> this notice.
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Please remember that under the terms of your registration 
agreement, the
 >>>>> provision of false Whois (contact) information can be grounds for
 >>>>> cancellation of your domain name registration.
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Domain Names with Anniversary Dates between September 1 and 
September 30
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Name: Registration Date:
 >>>>> ------ -----------------
 >>>>> aaaaaaaaaaa.info Sep 28, 2004
 >>>>> View Contact Data:
 >>>>> <http://wdrp.name-services.com/whois.asp?key=aaaaaaaaaaa>
 >>>>>
 >>>>>
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Thank you for your attention.
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Sincerely,
 >>>>>
 >>>>> WDRP Compliance
 >>>>>
 >>>>>
 >>>>
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