> to me the ISP has the right to do this legally, much as a retailer has
> the legal right to be rude to a customer.
>
> there is no law against stupidity.
>
> I think you SHOULD make sure that every notice that you send to this ISP
> be from a "safe" IP and, importantly, lets their customers know about
> their policies (hopefully in an understandable way) and that they should
> be aware of the problems that could create.
>

The problem with that is, all of our processes are automated. If I take even
these three customers out of the automation, there is a chance that I will
forget to send them something, somewhere, sometime.

When everything comes from the same database, it will always come from the
same IP (that of our mailserver). As I said earlier, our IP is perfectly
safe; there has never been one piece of spam sent from us. Between hosting &
registration (or both), we have about 420 domains, and this was done as a
result of one email (supposedly).

Brian

> just my thoughts.
>
> Regards
>
> Doctor PC - Brian O'Donnell wrote:
> >>>What is the ethical (or legal) ramifications of myISP doing something
> >
> > like
> >
> >>>that? Can they really punish the recipient of the spam? I have been
> >>>involved
> >>>in a discussion on SpamCop's forum today and the general concensus over
> >>>there is that because myISP is paying for the infrastructure, they, and
> >>>they
> >>>alone, call the shots as to what a user (paying customer) may receive.
> >
> > We
> >
> >>>are not talking about being punished for sending, just receiving.
> >>>
> >>>Any opinions?
> >>
> >>Normally its specific IP's that are blocked and usually for a set period
> >
> > of
> >
> >>time to see if the problem persists.
> >>That is how most blacklists work.
> >>
> >>We use some fairlu beign blacklisting and I have never had a customer
> >>complain or even notice.
> >>I think its if you use one of the radical blacklists that you will get
> >>collaterol damage or false positives.
> >
> >
> > Well, we started getting complaints from several customers that we
couldn't
> > find any answer for (about not getting any forwarded emails), but it was
> > when we sent out our renewal reminders and invoices that we found the
> > bounce:
> >
> > <snip>
> > This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
> >
> > A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
> > recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
> >
> >   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >     SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >     host mail.xxxx.xxx [123.456.78.9]: 591  Your host [987.654.32.1] is
on
> > the Banned Host list. Send your questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > </snip>
> >
> > When I contacted the company (first at [EMAIL PROTECTED], which
> > doesn't exist), then by telephone, their tech went on SpamCop's forum
and
> > posted about this "gutsy spammer" who had "some balls calling us" and
went
> > on a rant about how we sent (one piece of) spam which originated at
another
> > completely unrelated IP address, and that'll teach [me] to promote
spam....
> > etc. etc. blah blah blah...
> >
> > Incidentally, the company never returned my phone call. This post was
made
> > shortly after I left my message and I found it a week later by googling
our
> > blocked IP address.
> >
> > As of last count three different renewal notices have bounced back to us
> > because they are serviced by this ISP.
> >
> > Brian
> >
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>
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