Good points, David. I agree that some private education takes advantage. In this case, I know the school and think they actually do care about students. So, if someone is interested in learning programming, the Code Guild is at least worth talking to. But, if it doesn't seem like a good value or fit, there are certainly other options available.
Regards, Bob On Sep 18, 2014, at 10:51 AM, David Madden <[email protected]> wrote: > On 9/18/14, 9:15 AM, Robert Gallup wrote: >> It's a challenging, but thorough curriculum in a supportive >> environment. It won't teach you everything, but the purpose is to >> prepare you to be a junior developer. You should contact them if you >> have questions about specifics. > > From the website: >> You will learn everything you need to start your career as a junior >> developer. This course covers full stack web development and >> programming. You will learn Python, Django, JavaScript, Jquery, >> HTML5, CSS3, SQL, how to think like a programmer and important >> developer practices like agile, source control (git), testing, and >> debugging. Engaging hands-on individual, group and pair programming >> practice, as well as personal portfolio projects help you become an >> excellent junior developer. We help you get a job by guiding you as >> you build your portfolio, and by working with you on your resume and >> job interviewing skills. > > I am not a professional instructor, but I have been a professional > programmer, and I am currently a patent attorney who codes on the side > for fun, and in support of litigation matters. I am good at C, C++, > assembly language and SQL, and passable at Javascript, Jquery and CSS. > I don't know Python or Django. > > I would be surprised if anyone could acquire useful skills in even one > or two of the technologies listed, starting from scratch (rather than > from a solid, if basic, understanding of some sort of programming), in > 16 weeks of evenings. > > However, it is the next paragraph of the website that pegs my skepticism > meter: > >> Tuition for the Evening 16 Week Junior Developer class is class is >> $3,300. > > That's more than half the gross pay of a full-time, minimum-wage person > over the same length of time. I see a lot of for-profit education > stuff, and my personal opinion is, the providers are in it for the easy > student-loan money, rather than any special desire or ability to improve > the situation of the students. I recognize that that's an outrageously > cynical position, and certainly not every person involved in a > for-profit school is out to screw the students, but OTOH, the money a > for-profit school takes in accrues to the benefit of only a limited > number of owners and administrators. It's not like the instructors or > office staff is out to screw the students, but that doesn't matter if > the students end up screwed. > > So, IMHO, this camp is over-promising and is unlikely to deliver value > commensurate with the tuition. > > Regards, > -- > Mersenne Law LLP · www.mersenne.com · +1-503-679-1671 > - Small Business, Startup and Intellectual Property Law - > 9600 S.W. Oak Street · Suite 500 · Tigard, Oregon 97223 > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > [email protected] > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber _______________________________________________ dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list [email protected] http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
