Hello!

I’ve got a fun little Bluetooth LE project here… anyone out there know Nordic’s 
nRF51822 pretty well?   

Looking for some help with an algorithm that’s pretty cool.

YC-alum here working on a new endeavor starting-up in Portland.   Love to share 
more!

My best,
Brian




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>   1. Re: how to read a vehichle's EDR? (Sova)
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> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 22:23:22 -0700
> From: Sova <[email protected]>
> To: "'A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx \(portland,   or\)'"
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> Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] how to read a vehichle's EDR?
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> I can read the data from my EDR in my Toyota with the Toyota OEM Service 
> software and cable.  However, I could never use the data in court because 
> technically, I am not licensed to have the software or tool.  Only Toyota is 
> supposed to have it or licensed shops (and I?m guessing insurance companies). 
>  The software is about $2000 a year and the cable is about $400.  So a low 
> cost shady company probably doesn?t have or want to spend the money for these 
> tools.
> 
> 
> 
> That said? I?d see about taking your insurance company to small claims court. 
>  I?ve never heard of anyone being blamed for being at fault while they were 
> struck from behind.  You can also file a claim with the State Insurance 
> agency that oversees the company?s license.  This will DEFINITELY get your 
> insurance company?s attention and make them reconsider going after the other 
> party.
> 
> 
> 
> Sova
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> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brandon
> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 9:32 PM
> To: A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx (portland, or)
> Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] how to read a vehichle's EDR?
> 
> 
> 
> Yes to all of this. Assumptions aside, my insurance company has always gone 
> to bat for me (especially when I provided copies of all of my personal 
> documentation of the scene pre/post 'event'). 
> 
> Shady low-rate insurance vs shady low-rate insurance...both looking for an 
> easy out to stick one or both of the drivers with the tab.
> 
> Sorry for your bad situation. Lots of scum up there looking for a quick buck.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Brandon Mathis
> KD7INF
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> 
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Jerry Biehler <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Straying from the topic of the EDR, what is your insurance company doing 
> about it? They are the ones who need to go after the other company, not you. 
> That is their responsibility and why you pay insurance. It is basically 
> unheard of for the person in behind to be not at fault.
> 
> -Jerry
> 
> 
>> On Mar 24, 2015, at 7:36 PM, Jason Plumb <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Wait, did you say TRUCK or MOBILE_HOT_TUB_SOAKING_UNIT_#1?
>> 
>> If it's the latter, then clearly we need a more calculated/tactical 
>> community response.
>> 
>> -jason
>> 
>> On 03/24/2015 07:25 PM, Mykle Hansen wrote:
>>> HI all,
>>> 
>>> Here?s an interesting one: my truck recently got rear-ended by a lady 
>>> driving a 2008 car
>>> that apparently contains an Event Data Recorder ? an EDR, aka ?black box? 
>>> that is
>>> supposed to detect collisions and record pertinent information, such as the 
>>> speed the driver
>>> was traveling when the collision happened.
>>> 
>>> That would be a really interesting piece of information to know, because 
>>> apparently
>>> the lady who rear-ended my truck told her insurance company that my
>>> truck front-ended her, somehow.  (A bald-faced lie.)  And her insurance 
>>> company says it?s
>>> her word against mine, so they?re refusing to pay for damages!
>>> 
>>> I?m working on the legal front, but the lack of witnesses was making it an 
>>> iffy case ?
>>> until I realized that her car probably recorded her velocity at the time of 
>>> the crash, which
>>> would provide the evidence I need to win in a court case.
>>> 
>>> Seeing as my truck is probably not worth $10,000, I may not be able to get 
>>> a lawyer interested
>>> in this case, in which case I may go to small claims court, in which case I 
>>> may actually
>>> subpoena the data in her car?s EDR as evidence.  However, I?m really not 
>>> sure who extracts
>>> that data, or how it?s done.  I?m sure that as a plaintiff in a case I 
>>> can?t read it myself; there?s
>>> got to be some credible third-party who reads these things.
>>> 
>>> What?s funny is, I read online about how this data is ?very complicated to 
>>> interpret? and
>>> ?requires specialized equipment costing $10,000 - $20,000?, but I also read 
>>> about how
>>> the fifteen data points it stores are standardized values and is readable 
>>> through your car?s
>>> data port.  Which of those things is true, I wonder?
>>> 
>>> Anybody had any experience reading a car?s EDR, or know anyone who has?
>>> 
>>> -m-
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> I'm really confused about what happened... I know it is off topic, but if
> she rear ended you, how on earth is she arguing instead that you rear-ended
> her? It would seem that the damage to the cars would make the reality
> pretty clear cut.
> 
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:32 PM, Brandon <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Yes to all of this. Assumptions aside, my insurance company has always
>> gone to bat for me (especially when I provided copies of all of my personal
>> documentation of the scene pre/post 'event').
>> 
>> Shady low-rate insurance vs shady low-rate insurance...both looking for an
>> easy out to stick one or both of the drivers with the tab.
>> 
>> Sorry for your bad situation. Lots of scum up there looking for a quick
>> buck.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Brandon Mathis
>> KD7INF
>> [email protected]
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Jerry Biehler <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Straying from the topic of the EDR, what is your insurance company doing
>>> about it? They are the ones who need to go after the other company, not
>>> you. That is their responsibility and why you pay insurance. It is
>>> basically unheard of for the person in behind to be not at fault.
>>> 
>>> -Jerry
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 24, 2015, at 7:36 PM, Jason Plumb <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Wait, did you say TRUCK or MOBILE_HOT_TUB_SOAKING_UNIT_#1?
>>>> 
>>>> If it's the latter, then clearly we need a more calculated/tactical
>>> community response.
>>>> 
>>>> -jason
>>>> 
>>>> On 03/24/2015 07:25 PM, Mykle Hansen wrote:
>>>>> HI all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here?s an interesting one: my truck recently got rear-ended by a lady
>>> driving a 2008 car
>>>>> that apparently contains an Event Data Recorder ? an EDR, aka ?black
>>> box? that is
>>>>> supposed to detect collisions and record pertinent information, such
>>> as the speed the driver
>>>>> was traveling when the collision happened.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That would be a really interesting piece of information to know,
>>> because apparently
>>>>> the lady who rear-ended my truck told her insurance company that my
>>>>> truck front-ended her, somehow.  (A bald-faced lie.)  And her
>>> insurance company says it?s
>>>>> her word against mine, so they?re refusing to pay for damages!
>>>>> 
>>>>> I?m working on the legal front, but the lack of witnesses was making
>>> it an iffy case ?
>>>>> until I realized that her car probably recorded her velocity at the
>>> time of the crash, which
>>>>> would provide the evidence I need to win in a court case.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Seeing as my truck is probably not worth $10,000, I may not be able to
>>> get a lawyer interested
>>>>> in this case, in which case I may go to small claims court, in which
>>> case I may actually
>>>>> subpoena the data in her car?s EDR as evidence.  However, I?m really
>>> not sure who extracts
>>>>> that data, or how it?s done.  I?m sure that as a plaintiff in a case I
>>> can?t read it myself; there?s
>>>>> got to be some credible third-party who reads these things.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What?s funny is, I read online about how this data is ?very
>>> complicated to interpret? and
>>>>> ?requires specialized equipment costing $10,000 - $20,000?, but I also
>>> read about how
>>>>> the fifteen data points it stores are standardized values and is
>>> readable through your car?s
>>>>> data port.  Which of those things is true, I wonder?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anybody had any experience reading a car?s EDR, or know anyone who has?
>>>>> 
>>>>> -m-
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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