Where are you getting 50L of LN2 for $20?

On Thu, May 21, 2015, 10:30 Jerry Biehler <[email protected]> wrote:

> What I want is pretty simple, I am looking at more metrology than
> analysis, I want to use it to measure transmission and reflection of thin
> films to make dielectric bandpass filters and mirrors. I really could use
> sub-nm resolution which I should be able to get out of this spectrometer
> and which is a little tougher to do on the CCD units. Plus with a PMT you
> dont need to worry about cooling or noise quite as much.
>
> I am using a Hamamatsu HC120 PMT module like this, only the window is on
> the large face, not the end:
> http://www.digchip.com/datasheets/parts/datasheet/190/HC120-01-pdf.php
>
> So my idea of it working is it would make two scans, the first would be to
> adjust the gain. As it would scan it would watch for the ADC getting maxed
> out and then lower the high voltage on the PMT through the HV control lead
> until it is within scale. Once it passes through the scan it would scan
> again at that voltage setting.
>
> For the data, I dont care so much. It could just be CSV and dump it into
> excel or sheets. But if it could be made into a compatible dataset for the
> other spectrometer projects out there then this could be useful for more
> people.
>
> I also have one of these monochromators that this guy used to make a
> spectrometer with.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veETVeEsaNM&feature=youtu.be
> I was hoping he would post the code but he never did.
>
> I dont think you will get far with a PIN diode. There are detectors out
> there to replace SiLi, the Silicon Drift Detectors, but they are still
> thermoelectrically cooled and $$$. I can get 50L of LN2 for about $20 so
> that works fine for me.
> http://www.thermoscientific.com/content/dam/tfs/ATG/CAD/CAD%20Documents/Application%20&%20Technical%20Notes/Microanalysis%20and%20Electron%20Microscopy/TN52342_E_0512M_SiliconDrift_H.pdf
>
> I live in Beaverton by nike.
>
> -Jerry
>
> > On May 21, 2015, at 12:43 AM, Nathan McCorkle <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Jerry Biehler <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> Would anyone be interested in helping me build a controller for a
> spectrometer? I have a Spex 1681B, it is pretty simple, step/direction
> pulses control the scan with limit switches and then an analog signal from
> the photomultiplier tube. Hardware I can do, software, not so much. Figure
> use one of their edisons.
> >>
> >>
> http://www.horiba.com/fileadmin/uploads/Scientific/Documents/OSD/1681340E340S.pdf
> >>
> >> -Jerry
> >>
> >
> > I'd be up for helping you out, but I can't this weekend... too much
> > going on. What did you have in mind other than telling your hardware
> > to scan the monochromator and (presumably) grab ADC readings?
> >
> > I had been working on this a while ago, for the CCD array spectrometer
> > I was working on... but I didn't have much direction other than for
> > data collection and doing pH experiments (I was in a chemistry class
> > at the time I started writing the software):
> > https://github.com/nmz787/open-spectrometer/tree/master/desktop-software
> >
> > Plotting the data is achievable with many different solutions, and
> > since writing the above code, I feel matplotlib isn't a great choice.
> > It looks OK, but not amazing, and I've heard the library isn't
> > particularly well written, and I know it's not great to try embedding
> > into other GUIs.
> >
> > There's also Public Lab's Spectral Workbench, but I don't really know
> > what it can and can't do... I feel like it's pretty tied into their
> > spectrometer, and I don't know if they have things like beer-lambert
> > calculations built in.
> >
> >
> > What really interests me is some kind of machine learning on spectral
> > data, to match a given spectrum to a library of data. This is where
> > the big money spectroscopy companies shine, and what really
> > differentiates them compared to other hardware producers.
> >
> >
> > Anyway, I want to get together with you to talk
> > SEM/High-Voltage--low-noise stuff sometime anyway. I've been thinking
> > of a way to do EDX too, but using a PIN photodiode instead of a SiLi
> > detector. In theory it should work, but with less resolution, and I'm
> > guessing probably less signal-to-noise (so would require long scan
> > times, another guess). I was planning on using an LPC4370 with it's
> > 80MHz ADC on it... but not sure that will be enough bits, and it's a
> > good amount of work to get up and running (I only started about a year
> > ago and then got busy and distracted with how hard it was to really
> > get some steam up with it).
> >
> > I'm out in Hillsboro most of the time, if you're ever out this way,
> > drop me a line.
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