John Cooper wrote:
> So you are questioning my expertise in Linux? Things improved many years
> ago with the 2.6 kernel. Today they have surpassed Windoz making Linux
> far superior and laptops are no longer problematic.
John, without wishing to put words into anyone's mouth, I don't think
Mark is questioning your expertise so much as the scope of your
statement to the effect that you have not 'seen Ubuntu fail to discover
all of the components and configure them correctly'.

Whilst that may be true in your case, there is evidence to suggest that
this does still happen, my daughter's Acer 5735z being a good example,
and before that my wife's Dell i1300.

There has always been a lag between the introduction of new hardware and
the subsequent arrival of the relevant drivers on a given Linux install
disc, and in my experience no area shows that better example than the
laptop market.

Agreed, that lag may be shorter than ever before, and subsequent install
problems fewer, but it is still present. No doubt Jaunty will correct
that in my particular case, but until then it's a show stopper for
anyone not as experienced as you or I in identifying the hardware and
then navigating the forums and manufacturer's sites for drivers.

Don't get me wrong here, since I am certainly not championing Windows,
and I was dead pleased that Ellie insisted on Ubuntu. However, I believe
that there is more effort involved in getting Linux on to a laptop as a
rule, not least because manufacturers have typically made laptops
primarily with a Windows OS in mind (older Apple products and recent
Netbooks aside), with some like Dell offering a specialist service where
they solve the problems of installing a select, supported flavour of
Linux onto a machine for you.

It's testament to the skills present in the Linux community and the
tenacity of its advocates that, as quickly as the problems arise, they
are solved, and /that/ is where Linux beats Windows IMHO.

Sean


-- 
The computer can't tell you the emotional story. It can give you the exact 
mathematical design, but what's missing is the eyebrows.
Frank Zappa


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