hi Ralph,

>    ralph:x:1000:1000:Ralph Corderoy,,,:/home/ralph:/bin/bash
>    ralph:x:1000:
> newgrp(1) will still let me change to group `ralph' even though
> I'm not explicitly listed in /etc/group.

so what you're saying is that newgrp allows you to change group *to*
the group that you're in already?
ie GID 1000 is your default group, and you can execute 'newgrp ralph'
straight after a login?

doesn't work for me here, I can change to other groups (which I'm a
member of) only.

-- 
regards, jr.

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