This perhaps shows the difference in philosophy of some in the private sector to those in perhaps another part of the private sector who support FOSS:
http://www.bsa.org/country/News%20and%20Events/News%20Archives/enGB/2010/enGB-10072010-endorsement.aspx In a way I might suggest we are into an argument about what are meaning of the terms "private sector" and "free market". Mark Elkins ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, 1 January 2012, 12:00 Subject: dorset Digest, Vol 416, Issue 4 Send dorset mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of dorset digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: OT: Cabinet Office Ditches Open Standards in IT (Mark Elkins) 2. Re: Wimborne networking event. ([email protected]) 3. Re: Wimborne networking event. (C A Wills) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 15:40:52 +0000 (GMT) From: Mark Elkins <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Dorset] OT: Cabinet Office Ditches Open Standards in IT To: Simon P Smith <[email protected]>, Mark Elkins <[email protected]> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Simon Apologies for not replying sooner. I know some progress has been made with regard to CESG and Open Source and will dig out a few links on this. >"Enterprise Architect" civil servants for info. Sounds good. I'll send you details across next week once I'm back in contact with HMG about this. Cheers Mark ________________________________ From: Simon P Smith <[email protected]> To: Mark Elkins <[email protected]> Cc: Mark Elkins <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, 28 December 2011, 13:56 Subject: Re: OT: Cabinet Office Ditches Open Standards in IT Mark, On 28/12/11 13:31, Mark Elkins wrote: > >Are you willing to supply some more info about this because as far as I know >HMG still want to use Open Source? For example I am organizing a series of >internal HM Government events for Senior Civil servants on Open Source as >Chair of the BCS Open Source SG (OSSG). The first of which will take place in >February 2012. Therefore your experience sounds like it would be of interest >to the HMG staff I am dealing with setting up these events. In other words >they want to know examples about barriers to adoption of Open Source by HMG. > One of the main issues in this department is the insistence on security accreditation and the push to use CESG approved products.? The problem with OS is that you need time and money to submit the product for evaluation and gain some meaningful EAL certification; individual projects cannot afford this.? SUSE enterprise and RedHat Enterprise are listed there albeit older versions as those organisations can see some benefit of funding this.? I wanted to pilot a system on Ubunutu LTS with SE and use MySQL (or Postgres) instead of MSSQ;? you end up spending a great deal of time showing how it can be (1) secure (2) supportable.? We are in a laughable position where people will, when faced with a need for a routing MTA in a DMZ, select exchange and have to put in 2 ADs and and exchange box just to provide the MTA; just because "you never get sacked for usign M$". I am interested in your BCS events and if you send me the programme I will forward it to the "Enterprise Architect" civil servants for info. >Just for the record I've looked at this recent statement about Open Standards and feel its more about getting the statement bullet proof as opposed to actually dropping intention to make greater use of (Free and) Open Source. > Or also allowing the vested interests to lobby it more to water it down - perhaps I am cynical. Cheers, Simon ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 09:54:38 -0600 From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Dorset] Wimborne networking event. To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Clive, Peter, Walter, I would be interested in learning about setting up a network, and especially in joining in to create a self-help group. Please count me in. Regards, Charles Miller Wareham My setup:- * New Aleutia PC with Ubuntu 11.04/LibreOffice (possible dual-boot with XP later) * New Aleutia PC for XP/Office 2003 (or possibly Debian/Red Hat/other if I can find a Linux variant that can handle office work as well as XP/Office 2003 did (I don't find Ubuntu/LibreOffice good enough) * VAIO Laptop with Win7/Office 2007 (for use with projector for presentations and other out of office uses) which will either go back to XP or forward to Linux when I get around to it. (The above comprises the PCs in the new 'PAMPRU office' group) * PC with Win7/Office 2003 (will be removed from the group when the new PC with XP/Office2003 is ready to take its place) This may become the sole XP PC if both Aleutias and the VAIO get a suitable XP-comparable/MS-compatible Linux office system) * Colour Laser office printer, network and USB connections. * 2x USB office scanners, one A4 multi0sheet and one A3, and have a network-to-USB converter option as well as the Kensington USB Switcher now in use. * New 1GB 8-port ECO switch (not yet installed)will replace power-hungry 1 gig Netgear) * Several Network HDDS of 1 and 2 TB each (all sizes in RAID 1 config) *AEG 0.6Kva UPS for all except laser printer and scanners (Leyboard, dual mice, sound, and all USB peripherals switch from one PC to the other when NumLock tapped twice quickly) Quoting Peter Merchant <[email protected]>: > On Wed, 2011-12-28 at 13:48 +0000, Walter Reed wrote: >> Clive, I too am interested, retired, Wimborne based. >> How about a self help group? >> >> I am reasonably competent with routers, IP addressing and Wifi. >> I have limited success with Networking and need to spend a little >> more time there. >> How about identifying the problems >> 1 Ubuntu-Ubuntu >> 2 Ubuntu-MS with some mutual research. >> >> Regards, >> Walter >> Ubuntu 11.10, 10.04 LTS, XP & 7. >> Netbook, Laptop, 2 PCs, NAS Drive (little recent use) > > Clive, I suggest that you propose an afternoon date sometime early in > the new year, and make sure that the coffeepot works. > > Off-list I guess, as these other guys won't be interested. > > Peter > > > > > > -- > Next meeting: Bournemouth, second Tuesday 2012-01-10 20:00 > Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ > New thread on mailing list: mailto:[email protected] > How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 17:53:37 +0000 From: C A Wills <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Dorset] Wimborne networking event. To: Dorset Linux User Group <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Hi Charles Happy New Year. Can I suggest that we pass on any info to you as it's going to be tight around my computer (it's in a corner 3' table). I'm going to re-arrange so we can see the screen but am very restricted. May bring a photo on Tuesdaysmeet to show the area! Now to get together all the info on my system 'as is'; that should be a help to sort it out. See you on 10th? *C A Wills* /Powered by Linux & Open Source Software/ On 31/12/11 15:54, [email protected] wrote: > Clive, Peter, Walter, > > I would be interested in learning about setting up a network, and > especially in joining in to create a self-help group. > > Please count me in. > > Regards, > > Charles Miller > Wareham > My setup:- > * New Aleutia PC with Ubuntu 11.04/LibreOffice (possible dual-boot > with XP later) > * New Aleutia PC for XP/Office 2003 (or possibly Debian/Red Hat/other > if I can find a Linux variant that can handle office work as well as > XP/Office 2003 did (I don't find Ubuntu/LibreOffice good enough) > * VAIO Laptop with Win7/Office 2007 (for use with projector for > presentations and other out of office uses) which will either go back > to XP or forward to Linux when I get around to it. > (The above comprises the PCs in the new 'PAMPRU office' group) > * PC with Win7/Office 2003 (will be removed from the group when the > new PC with XP/Office2003 is ready to take its place) This may become > the sole XP PC if both Aleutias and the VAIO get a suitable > XP-comparable/MS-compatible Linux office system) > * Colour Laser office printer, network and USB connections. > * 2x USB office scanners, one A4 multi0sheet and one A3, and have a > network-to-USB converter option as well as the Kensington USB Switcher > now in use. > * New 1GB 8-port ECO switch (not yet installed)will replace > power-hungry 1 gig Netgear) > * Several Network HDDS of 1 and 2 TB each (all sizes in RAID 1 config) > *AEG 0.6Kva UPS for all except laser printer and scanners > (Leyboard, dual mice, sound, and all USB peripherals switch from one > PC to the other when NumLock tapped twice quickly) > > > Quoting Peter Merchant <[email protected]>: > >> On Wed, 2011-12-28 at 13:48 +0000, Walter Reed wrote: >>> Clive, I too am interested, retired, Wimborne based. >>> How about a self help group? >>> >>> I am reasonably competent with routers, IP addressing and Wifi. >>> I have limited success with Networking and need to spend a little >>> more time there. >>> How about identifying the problems >>> 1 Ubuntu-Ubuntu >>> 2 Ubuntu-MS with some mutual research. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Walter >>> Ubuntu 11.10, 10.04 LTS, XP & 7. >>> Netbook, Laptop, 2 PCs, NAS Drive (little recent use) >> >> Clive, I suggest that you propose an afternoon date sometime early in >> the new year, and make sure that the coffeepot works. >> >> Off-list I guess, as these other guys won't be interested. >> >> Peter >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Next meeting: Bournemouth, second Tuesday 2012-01-10 20:00 >> Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ >> New thread on mailing list: mailto:[email protected] >> How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue >> > > > > -- > Next meeting: Bournemouth, second Tuesday 2012-01-10 20:00 > Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ > New thread on mailing list: mailto:[email protected] > How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ dorset mailing list [email protected] https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset End of dorset Digest, Vol 416, Issue 4 ************************************** -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, second Tuesday 2012-01-10 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:[email protected] How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
