** David Smith <david.sm...@aic.co.uk> [2013-11-01 16:57]:
> On Friday, November 01, 2013 4:27 PM Paul Tansom wrote
<snip>
> >I think I've been put off desktop databases by MS Access where
> >I've had several
> >battles to get it to do what I want it to. Generally I've wanted
> >to interact
> >with the SQL it generates, only to find that either it isn't
> >really SQL or it
> >is actually doing more behind the scenes than the SQL it presents actually
> >tells it to - very nasty! It is going back a bit so it may have improved.
> 
> I found MS Access fine for single user, but it could not cope
> properly with multi user - locking inadequate I think.

I've not got into that, multi-user wise I've always gone for a proper backend
and a web interface, even back when I was force to work with a combination of
MS SQL, Javascript and a CGI called HotSQL do develop a call logging system
that should look workable in IE, Netscape Navigator and WebExplorer on either
Windows 95 or OS/2 in 640x480 or above with 16 colours or more!

> >Oddly, when it comes to desktop databases I've found that the MS
> >Works one has
> >been the one I've got on best with (OK, now everybody gets ready
> >to hurl abuse
> >at me!). I think the main reason for this is that the database is
> >little more
> >than a single table for storing data that I can merge into a
> >document. Since
> >this is a long time ago and that is exactly what I wanted to do it
> >was easy.
> >There doesn't seem to be much around that works well for
> >exceptionally basic
> >stuff like that these days. I've been battling LibreOffice Base a bit on
> >Windows to do something simple like that just recently and not got
> >on well. It
> >is no wonder so many simplistic databases are done in spreadsheets!
> 
> I need to do Joins and grouping of records etc. Spreadsheets not
> good for that.

Yes, for my own stuff I work like that, these databases have been simple table
of information that need to be stored, updated and printed. It would almost
work as a table in a word processed document bar the fact that you can't sort
properly there. In a database the records stay together, I've sorted columns in
spreadsheets and word processors where only the column itself has been sorted
and all other columns have stayed as they were - great way to screw up the
data!

> I cannot understand the Firebird documentation. SQlite seems fine.
> It seems that sequences of SQL statements can be executed from Linux
> shell scripts. This will avoid having to write C or C++ programs.

Sounds like fun :)

** end quote [David Smith]

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