Inline [Andreas]

>2.  Non-invasive to client classes.  You don't have to derive from some
>PersistentObject or implement special interfaces.  Basically a
>reflection
>approach with help from custom attributes.
>
>*** BZZZZ - wrong. You ARE invasive if you ask for custom attributes.
>You will never be able to serialize private attributes "non-invasive".

[Andreas] I would be intressting to see how you could utilize
aspect-orientated programming to get around having to derive
all of objects that should be able to persist from a given
class. Adding the layer of omnipresense to a class is sweet
music to my *not-been-getting-my-hands-dirty-working-on-production
-code-since-i'm-still-a-student* ears.

>*** It might. I have an O/R mapper here ready for about half a year - it
>was supposed to become a product but will probably never. We seriously
>think of making it open source :-)
>
>*** Thomas

[Andreas] This wouldnt happen to be the same O/R mapper that required
USD xxx and an NDA would it? =)


>Jim
>
>[1] - http://www.ambysoft.com
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Peter Foreman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:56 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [DOTNET] OT: Relational to Object mapping.
>>
>>
>> It's definitely worth looking hard into this before doing it
>> IMO.  Depending on the nature of your
>> application there are performance implications in going down
>> an OR route.
>>
>> Scott Ambler's papers are a good starting read.  But it's
>> worth having at least a cursory glance
>> at CORBA persistence, 'entity' java beans, JDO, and
>> ObjectSpaces.  It's also worth looking at the
>> commercial products that do this successfully at the moment
>> in a real world high performance
>> system.  (Or lack thereof).
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> --- "Rolls, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > I'd definatley like to hear more at present we're looking
>> at everything.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Shawn Wildermuth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> > Sent: Friday, 10 May 2002 12:33
>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Subject: Re: [DOTNET] OT: Relational to Object mapping.
>> >
>> >
>> > I like using the object-like view of data you get from
>> using DataSet and
>> > navigating between tables through relationships.  If this
>> is confusing,
>> > I'll write about it more in-depth reply.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Shawn Wildermuth
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: dotnet discussion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> > > On Behalf Of Rolls, Robert
>> > > Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 9:45 PM
>> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > > Subject: [DOTNET] OT: Relational to Object mapping.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Does anybody have a good web site link that gives a good
>> > > overview of relational to object mapping?
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > Robert Rolls
>> > >
>> > >
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