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Regards

Thomas Tomiczek
THONA Consulting Ltd.
(Microsoft MVP C#/.NET)

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Foreman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Montag, 13. Mai 2002 11:36
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Help Architecting A Middle Tier

--- Thomas Tomiczek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> (a) Transaction support and propagation.

In a multiple resource manager/DTC case - agreed.  But in the simple
case of a single RM it's
probably not worth the overhead of DTC compared to hand coding the
transaction start and end
points, especially if you are implementing data manipulation code in
stored procedures.

*** I was talking of RM/DTC's. SOMEHOW every serviced component I write
is having a CRM or using other features :-(. EVEN if I do not want my
component to participate in a foreigh transaction NOW; I never know how
the user might want to.

> (b) security.

Are we talking about call security, or role based security.  Role based
security is something I
have yet to find a real use for.

*** I was talking about the complete security package - which, mostly,
is role based.

> (c) resource optimization.

What resources?  COM+ introduces a number of areas of overhead in terms
of time and memory.

*** Resources. Like in Just In Tame Activation, like in Resource
Managers - I was talking of omputer resources.

> For the next years, Remoting is not a competitor to DCOM, sorry.

In the old ASP/COM world scripting ASP is poor compared to components in
VB/VC++ in terms of error

*** Well, Serviced Components are an optimal balance, are they not?

handling, debugging support etc.  Since you're going to the effort of
coding up components, you
might as well go the extra mile to COM+ and get the extra features for
relatively little
additional effort.

However, with ASP.Net there is less of an incentive to go down this
route since the coding model
in ASP.Net is first class.  I really see COM+ being much less important
in .Net.

*** Try making componentized enterprise systems and then come back with
your opinion. There is hardly a match or replacement so far for MSMQ,
DTS etc. Sure, as long as you want to put every part of your logic into
the webpage, you are ok - but at one point the COM+ features come in
VERY handy.

*** Thomas

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