On Friday, November 14 at 11:51 AM, quoth Charles Marcus:
<shrug> I'm not saying that's *true*, I'm just saying I've heard that a lot...

Thats called spreading FUD.

No, it's not. FUD would be "a strategic attempt to influence public opinion by disseminating negative (and vague) information."

I am not trying to influence public opinion, I'm reporting existing public opinion. The consensus opinion of the sysadmins I trust most highly is that ReiserFS is still relatively experimental and has not yet earned their trust---several of them have been bitten by ReiserFS bugs on their development machines (read: data loss due to unrecoverable filesystem corruption). That said, their problems were several years ago. Unfortunately, in the world of filesystem reliability, trust comes slowly once lost (check out how recently ReiserFS has been fixing quota-related problems, including ACL deadlocks).

In any case, I have no strategic purpose here. I have no interest or stake in any filesystem taking over the world. If ReiserFS is extremely stable and extremely reliable, then that's awesome, but it does have a bit of a reputation problem. Denying that it has a negative reputation, or claiming that anyone who describes its reputation is spreading FUD, is not only pointless but also counter productive. If you want to say "well, that may be what you've heard, but I've used ReiserFS on several large, heavily-used, mission-critical systems for several years and have not had any problems", then that would be a useful and important statement. You'd even be helping ReiserFS's reputation. But by having such a knee-jerk reaction to the fact that it's got a negative reputation, you're making the filesystem seem like it's used largely by proselytizers and zealots---which is not a good way to build ReiserFS's reputation.

I've heard plenty of horror stories about ext2/ext3, xfs, etc ALL losing data...

Of course - any filesystem can loose data in bad situations (such as power loss, bad disks, etc.). Ext3 is certainly not perfect for all situations. For example, it's a bad idea on flash media because it keeps its journal file in a fixed spot on the drive, which can wear out that part of a flash drive quickly. The real question is: what are the reputations of those filesystems, and why? Ext2/3 have been around for a very long time, and are extremely well-tested by virtue of their popularity, and as such tend to be more trusted for mission-critical systems (unless there's a reason they shouldn't be used).

The fact is, I've been using reiserfs on numerous boxes for many years with ZERO problems.

Excellent! What kind of systems are we talking about? How heavily loaded? Did you use it with LVM? Did you ever have to use the recovery tools? How well did they work?

~Kyle
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