Dear Mr. Svensson,

For what it is worth, I recommend this approach:

1)  First off, I'd recommend you learn the difference between IMAP and POP3.  
That's real important.

This might help:  http://www1.umn.edu/adcs/guides/email/imapvspop.html

Like Mr. Marcus said, Dovecot is first and foremost an IMAP server.

2)  Get Dovecot working so you can see the inbox and your folders *as an IMAP 
server* in Thunderbird.  

3)  If you have both Postfix and Sendmail installed, uninstall the one you are 
not going to use.

4)  Get Postfix (or Sendmail - not both!) and Dovecot working to the point 
where you can send and receive mail as localhost.  Oh, and don't be trying to 
put "smtp.live.com", for instance, in your Postfix or Sendmail config.  Just 
try to get it to work as localhost.  You won't ever actually need them in your 
Postfix or Sendmail config.  Postfix (or Sendmail) is only going to be 
delivering your emails from fetchmail to your Dovecot account(s).  

5)  Next, get it to where you can send mail from your gmail to your hotmail 
account, and vice verse.  Conceptual point here: you will be connecting into 
hotmail and gmail's server to actually send your mail.  Don't worry about 
seeing them in Thunderbird yet.  Log into your gmail and hotmail accounts via 
the web, and check them there.  

6)  If you get that far, let me know, and I'll be happy to help you with the 
fetchmail part, which retrieves the emails from hotmail and gmail, and I can 
also help you with a way to delete the messages from the server after they're 
retrieved, if you would like that, too.  (I think getmail can do this.  I've 
never used it.  Fetchmail won't - unless that's changed through the years.  But 
it can be done with other open source software.)

I will tell you, though, that I think you're creating a lot of work for 
yourself, and when it's all said and done, I think you will find it was not 
worth it.  Thunderbird does a decent enough job of handling hotmail accounts as 
it is.  I don't know about gmail.  I've never used it.  Don't want to.  

In looking for the link for step one, I found this, which you also might find 
helpful:

https://support.google.com/mail/bin/static.py?hl=en&page=ts.cs&ts=1668960&p=syncdmail

And that link also would lead me to believe that Thunderbird would do a decent 
enough job with gmail, too.

I hope this helps.

Peter, hieromonk

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On Jan 5, 2013, at 6:24 AM, Charles Marcus wrote:

> On 2013-01-04 7:26 PM, martin svensson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Basically, i installed SMS, superb Mini Server (based on slackware), and 
>> with that default install i got: dovecot, postfix, fetchmail and sendmail.
> 
> Ummm... remove sendmail. You can't have two MTAs on the same machine unless 
> you just really enjoy headaches and frustration.
> 
> Also, I'd recommend getmail over fetchmail, but fetchmail will work...
> 
>> The postfix part seems to work according to a "telnet localhost 25",
> 
> Maybe - or maybe it is sendmail you're talking to.
> 
> No way to tell without seeing logs of a telnet session.
> 
> Also, the above in no way proves a working/secure postfix setup. A LOT more 
> information is needed, like config details (postconf -n output and maybe 
> master.cf contents for starters) and logs of mail transactions...
> 
>> now i want to procede with dovecot, as i understand it, its the middle layer 
>> between (in my case) postfix and thunderbird.
> 
> Your understanding is flawed.
> 
> Dovecot is first and foremost an IMAP server, but also does POP3. It serves 
> mail to email clients.
> 
> It can interact with an MTA (like postfix) for final delivery of email though.
> 
> It sounds to me like you really know very little about administering a mail 
> server. Working with your own private server is a good way to start, but you 
> need to be very careful - it is easy to make mistakes that will result in 
> getting hacked/exploited (you could become a source of spam or backscatter), 
> or make mistakes that lose mail (maybe not a big deal if it is your own 
> private server and you are using unimportant domains/accounts for getting up 
> to speed).
> 
> Charles
> 

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