We are working on fixing this. Aki
> On 31 December 2018 at 23:45 Chris BL <cpblpublic+dove...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Aki, > > Bingo! Putting that line in dovecot.conf rather than my custom file, and > then using my old custom file, unchanged, from Alpine works perfectly. > > My only remaining question, then, would be ... what was this (change) > about / or is there any documentation that I should/could have read to > know what to do without asking a lead developer? > > Thank you very much. > > I hope you had a great start to the New Year! > > Happy 2019, > Chris > > > On Mon, 31 Dec 2018, Aki Tuomi wrote: > > > If your client directly executes imap binary, it is not mandatory for > > dovecot to be running, but you need to put the service section into > > /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf and restart the dovecot service. > > > > Putting it to your local config file does not affect the global service. > > > > Aki > > > > > On 31 December 2018 at 22:16 Chris BL <cpblpublic+dove...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Aki, > > > > > > I am not 100% sure. I do not really know what my OS does. "ps -A" says > > > dovecot is running, but if I say "sudo service dovecot stop", my email > > > client works fine still (that is, assuming the old version of dovecot is > > > installed). ie the on-demand instances of dovecot-imapd that Alpine calls > > > are, I assume, started and stopped by Alpine. (?) > > > > > > Is my OS using dovecot for other stuff, like managing system mail (e.g. > > > root's reports of cron jobs, which still go to /var/mail, but I never > > > read > > > them)? I am not certain. But I believed that any other use of dovecot > > > would be using a different .conf file, so I was hoping I just had to know > > > how to make my custom one (-c flag) work. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 31 Dec 2018, Aki Tuomi wrote: > > > > > > > Am I assuming correctly that you are not, in fact, running anything but > > > > imap process from Dovecot? > > > > > > > > Aki > > > > > > > > > On 31 December 2018 at 18:35 Chris BL <cpblpublic+dove...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Aki, > > > > > > > > > > Oops; I did not think carefully enough about your instructions. Here > > > > > is the output from > > > > > > > > > > $ dovecot -n -c /home/meuser/dotfiles/auto-stanford-dovecot.conf > > > > > > > > > > # 2.3.2.1 (0719df592): > > > > > /home/meuser/dotfiles/auto-stanford-dovecot.conf > > > > > # Pigeonhole version 0.5.2 () > > > > > # OS: Linux 4.18.0-13-generic x86_64 Ubuntu 18.10 ext4 > > > > > # Hostname: cpbl-t450s > > > > > doveconf: Warning: please set ssl_dh=</etc/dovecot/dh.pem > > > > > doveconf: Warning: You can generate it with: dd > > > > > if=/var/lib/dovecot/ssl-parameters.dat bs=1 skip=88 | openssl dhparam > > > > > -inform der > /etc/dovecot/dh.pem > > > > > mail_location = > > > > > maildir:/home/meuser/imap/gmailStanford:LAYOUT=fs:INBOX=/home/meuser/imap/gmailStanford/INBOX > > > > > service stats { > > > > > unix_listener stats-writer { > > > > > mode = 0666 > > > > > } > > > > > } > > > > > ssl_dh = # hidden, use -P to show it > > > > > verbose_proctitle = yes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I then followed the instructions in the Warning lines above and now I > > > > > get: > > > > > > > > > > dovecot -n -c /home/meuser/dotfiles/auto-stanford-dovecot.conf > > > > > # 2.3.2.1 (0719df592): > > > > > /home/meuser/dotfiles/auto-stanford-dovecot.conf > > > > > # Pigeonhole version 0.5.2 () > > > > > # OS: Linux 4.18.0-13-generic x86_64 Ubuntu 18.10 ext4 > > > > > # Hostname: cpbl-t450s > > > > > mail_location = > > > > > maildir:/home/meuser/imap/gmailStanford:LAYOUT=fs:INBOX=/home/meuser/imap/gmailStanford/INBOX > > > > > service stats { > > > > > unix_listener stats-writer { > > > > > mode = 0666 > > > > > } > > > > > } > > > > > ssl_dh = # hidden, use -P to show it > > > > > verbose_proctitle = yes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, this does not help my primary symptom: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > $ /usr/lib/dovecot/imap -c > > > > > /home/meuser/dotfiles/auto-stanford-dovecot.conf > > > > > imap(meuser,)Error: net_connect_unix(/var/run/dovecot/stats-writer) > > > > > failed: Permission denied > > > > > * PREAUTH [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE > > > > > IDLE SORT SORT=DISPLAY THREAD=REFERENCES THREAD=REFS > > > > > THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT MULTIAPPEND URL-PARTIAL CATENATE UNSELECT > > > > > CHILDREN NAMESPACE > > > > > UIDPLUS LIST-EXTENDED I18NLEVEL=1 CONDSTORE QRESYNC ESEARCH ESORT > > > > > SEARCHRES WITHIN CONTEXT=SEARCH LIST-STATUS BINARY MOVE SNIPPET=FUZZY > > > > > LITERAL+ NOTIFY] Logged in as meuser > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 10:27 AM Aki Tuomi > > > > > <aki.tu...@open-xchange.com> wrote: > > > > > Did you remove the service section before taking doveconf -n? > > > > > 'cos I can't see it here.. > > > > > > > > > > Also, did you restart dovecot after config change? > > > > > > > > > > Aki > > > > > > > > > > > On 31 December 2018 at 16:54 Chris BL > > > > > <cpblpublic+dove...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Aki, > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the same connect error: imap(meuser,)Error: > > > > > net_connect_unix(/var/run/dovecot/stats-writer) failed: Permission > > > > > denied > > > > > > > > > > > > The mail location in "doveconf -n" (belo) does not reflect my > > > > > preferences. > > > > > > > > > > > > In Alpine, if I acknowledge the error I get, which tells me > > > > > to add > > > > > > novalidate-cert in my pinerc file, it prompts me for my POSIX > > > > > username and > > > > > > password. After that, I get my /var/spool/mail inbox, which > > > > > is not what I > > > > > > want. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doveconf -n > > > > > > # 2.3.2.1 (0719df592): /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf > > > > > > # Pigeonhole version 0.5.2 () > > > > > > # OS: Linux 4.18.0-13-generic x86_64 Ubuntu 18.10 > > > > > > # Hostname: myhost-t450s > > > > > > mail_location = mbox:~/mail:INBOX=/var/mail/%u > > > > > > mail_privileged_group = mail > > > > > > namespace inbox { > > > > > > inbox = yes > > > > > > location = > > > > > > mailbox Drafts { > > > > > > special_use = \Drafts > > > > > > } > > > > > > mailbox Junk { > > > > > > special_use = \Junk > > > > > > } > > > > > > mailbox Sent { > > > > > > special_use = \Sent > > > > > > } > > > > > > mailbox "Sent Messages" { > > > > > > special_use = \Sent > > > > > > } > > > > > > mailbox Trash { > > > > > > special_use = \Trash > > > > > > } > > > > > > prefix = > > > > > > } > > > > > > passdb { > > > > > > driver = pam > > > > > > } > > > > > > protocols = " imap" > > > > > > ssl_cert = </etc/dovecot/private/dovecot.pem > > > > > > ssl_client_ca_dir = /etc/ssl/certs > > > > > > ssl_dh = # hidden, use -P to show it > > > > > > ssl_key = # hidden, use -P to show it > > > > > > userdb { > > > > > > driver = passwd > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 31 Dec 2018, Aki Tuomi wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are still getting the connect error? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you share your doveconf -n? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aki > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 31 December 2018 at 16:42 cpblpublic+dove...@gmail.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Aki, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. I put that in the .conf file I mentioned, and it > > > > > made no > > > > > > > > difference. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In your case it's probably easiest to change > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > service stats { > > > > > > > > > unix_listener stats-writer { > > > > > > > > > mode = 0666 > > > > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aki > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 31 December 2018 at 16:05 > > > > > cpblpublic+dove...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I use a localhost dovecot imap server in order to > > > > > access maildir folders from Alpine (see 2009 instructions for my set > > > > > up here > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cpbl.wordpress.com/2009/11/07/alpine-offlineimap-and-gmail-under-ubuntu/ > > > > > ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My configuration has worked nicely since 2009, but > > > > > failed after a recent upgrade of dovecot (during basic upgrade from > > > > > Ubuntu 18.04 to 18.10). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The version of Alpine did not change. Uninstalling > > > > > dovecot-core and dovecot-imapd, and reinstalling the older versions, > > > > > fully fixes the problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to know how to get my configuration > > > > > working with the new version of dovecot. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's what the problem looks like: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a file auto-dovecot.conf with only the > > > > > following two lines. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > verbose_proctitle = yes > > > > > > > > > > mail_location = > > > > > maildir:/home/meuser/imap/gmailStanford:LAYOUT=fs:INBOX=/home/meuser/imap/gmailStanford/INBOX > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Other /etc/ files are unchanged from installation > > > > > defaults. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alpine calls imapd when it starts, with the following > > > > > command: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /usr/lib/dovecot/imap -c > > > > > /home/meuser/dotfiles/auto-dovecot.conf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I run that command, I get: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > imap(meuser,)Error: > > > > > net_connect_unix(/var/run/dovecot/stats-writer) failed: Permission > > > > > denied > > > > > > > > > > * PREAUTH [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 SASL-IR > > > > > LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE IDLE > > > > > > > > > > SORT SORT=DISPLAY THREAD=REFERENCES THREAD=REFS > > > > > THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT > > > > > > > > > > MULTIAPPEND URL-PARTIAL CATENATE UNSELECT CHILDREN > > > > > NAMESPACE UIDPLUS > > > > > > > > > > LIST-EXTENDED I18NLEVEL=1 CONDSTORE QRESYNC ESEARCH > > > > > ESORT SEARCHRES WITHIN > > > > > > > > > > CONTEXT=SEARCH LIST-STATUS BINARY MOVE SNIPPET=FUZZY > > > > > LITERAL+ NOTIFY] > > > > > > > > > > Logged in as meuser > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so I am guessing that the first line is the issue, > > > > > since when the older version I get instead: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * PREAUTH [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 LITERAL+ SASL-IR > > > > > LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE > > > > > > > > > > IDLE SORT SORT=DISPLAY THREAD=REFERENCES THREAD=REFS > > > > > THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT > > > > > > > > > > MULTIAPPEND URL-PARTIAL CATENATE UNSELECT CHILDREN > > > > > NAMESPACE UIDPLUS > > > > > > > > > > LIST-EXTENDED I18NLEVEL=1 CONDSTORE QRESYNC ESEARCH > > > > > ESORT SEARCHRES WITHIN > > > > > > > > > > CONTEXT=SEARCH LIST-STATUS BINARY MOVE] Logged in as > > > > > meuser > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone help me? I cannot find documentation for > > > > > using a localhost server for Alpine, except my own from 2009. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >