On 11/04/2019 22:09, Laura Smith via dovecot wrote:
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:01 PM, John Fawcett via dovecot 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 11/04/2019 10:02, Laura Smith via dovecot wrote:
>>
>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>> On Thursday, April 11, 2019 12:55 AM, John Fawcett via dovecot 
>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/04/2019 00:51, Laura Smith via dovecot wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>>>> On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 11:48 PM, John Fawcett via dovecot 
>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/04/2019 00:18, Laura Smith via dovecot wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 10:24 PM, Aki Tuomi 
>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10 April 2019 23:56 Laura Smith via dovecot < [email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:14 PM, Aki Tuomi < 
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 10 April 2019 23:13 Laura Smith via dovecot [email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:20 PM, Aki Tuomi 
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10 April 2019 22:13 Laura Smith via dovecot 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 7:57 PM, Aki Tuomi 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10 April 2019 21:26 Laura Smith via dovecot 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ==========================================================================
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dsync( [email protected]): Error: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> imapc(foobar.example.com:993): dns_lookup(foobar.example.com) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> failed: read(/var/run/dovecot/dns-client) failed: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read(size=512) failed: Connection reset by peer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is dovecot's internal dns-client, and something goes wrong 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when talking to the service.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dsync( [email protected]): Error: Failed to initialize user: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> imapc: Login to foobar.example.com failed: Disconnected from 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is btw dsync service, not imap service.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ===============================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Initially I thought "oh no, not another AppArmor block".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But then surely the second message would not appear if the DNS 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lookup was not successful ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also "dig foobar.example.com" works fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How should I be troubleshooting this ? And if it is still 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely to be AppArmor, what is calling it ? "doveadm" itself or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something else ? What does "/var/run/dovecot/dns-client" do and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why doesn't dovecot use standard OS calls like everyone else ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because the "standard OS call" is blocking and we would prefer 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it to not block everything else.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So many questions !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aki
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your reply, but both those message are generated 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from a simple :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doveadm -v -o mail_fsync=never backup -R -u [email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> imapc:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I don't know what you mean about dsync service failing ? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Surely the DNS lookup succeeded if the 'dsync service' failed 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> due to remote disconnect ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm still none the wiser as to where to start looking for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> troubleshoting ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you check dovecot logs? Maybe there is something useful?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aki
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only the same old cryptic message about dns-client ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> master: Fatal: execv(/usr/lib/dovecot/dns-client) failed: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Permission denied
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something prevents executing the dns-client binary.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> master: Error: service(dns_client): command startup failed, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> throttling for 16 secs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dns_client: Fatal: master: service(dns_client): child 14293 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> returned error 84 (exec() failed)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aki
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes but is it being called by doveadm directly or by some other 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dovecot program ? If I'm going to have to go down the AppArmor 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> route, then I would prefer if you told me what was calling it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of me having to un-necessarily spend time doing straces 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, should I be able to call dns-client directly myself ? (or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is there a way to do so to enable testing ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is started by dovecot's master process when you connect to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dns-client unix socket. You can try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> socat stdio unix-connect:/var/run/dovecot/dns-client
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought apparmor tells when something is blocked into kernel 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> log? have you checked dmesg?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apologies for your frustration.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah nothing in dmesg.  I'm still hunting around to find some 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> log somewhere but so far silence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "socat stdio unix-connect:/var/run/dovecot/dns-client" runs but 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> returns nothing. Is that expected ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you say "dovecot's master process", so  doveadm sync talks 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the master process ?  So in terms of apparmor I would 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> therefore be looking at /usr/sbin/dovecot ?  If that's the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> case, the relevant apparmor permisssions are already provided :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   /{,var/}run/dovecot/ rw,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   /{,var/}run/dovecot/** rw,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laura
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do the above apparmor settings give permission to dovecot to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> execute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /usr/lib/dovecot/dns-client, assuming that the user under which 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dovecot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is running already has file system permissions to do that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's the definitive answer to your question (and anyone else 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking of pointing the finger at apparmor):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> foo:/home/foo # sudo systemctl stop apparmor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> foo:/home/foo # doveadm -v -o mail_fsync=never backup -R -u 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] imapc:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dsync([email protected]): Error: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> imapc(foobar.example.com:993): dns_lookup(foobar.example.com) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> failed: DNS lookup timed out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dsync([email protected]): Error: Failed to initialize user: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> imapc: Login to foobar.example.com failed: Disconnected from 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So. Can we move on from the "blame apparmor" ? ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laura
>>>> I'd suggest doing the test with a restart of dovecot in between stopping
>>>> apparmor and running the doveadm command. Check your logs to see if
>>>> there is no longer any message generated about not being able to execv
>>>> /usr/lib/dovecot/dns-client.
>>>> foo:/home/foo # sudo systemctl stop apparmor
>>>> foo:/home/foo # sudo systemctl restart dovecot
>>>> foo:/home/foo # doveadm -v -o mail_fsync=never backup -R -u 
>>>> [email protected] imapc:
>>>> John
>>> Same again....
>>> failed: read(/var/run/dovecot/dns-client) failed: read(size=512) failed: 
>>> Connection reset by peer
>> do you get any messages in /var/log/audit/audit.log when executing this
>> test?
>>
>> John
>
> I did (which also lead me to the discovery that stopping the apparmor service 
> doesn't actually do what you think it might, you still need to run 
> 'aa-teardown').
>
> But the answer for posterity is the following :
>
> Put :
> /usr/lib/dovecot/dns-client mrix,
> /var/run/dovecot/dns-client mrix,
> Into:
> /etc/apparmor.d/local/usr.sbin.dovecot
> And:
> systemctl restart apparmor &&  systemctl restart dovecot
>
>
>
> Thank you to all those here for your help.  However I would stil like to see 
> a way to be able to manually test 'dns-client' included in future dovecot 
> releases.
>
Glad you found the problem. It would be good to report those apparmor
configuration changes (and any others you find along the way) back to
the package maintainer. It doesn't make sense for everyone to have to
make these local  appamor changes to support standard software
configurations that should work out of the box.

John

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