Answering my own question: removing the existing mailbox and running again 
worked. I don’t know why, I think it should have made the existing mailbox 
equivalent to the backupped one, shouldn’t it?

Gerben Wierda
Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture <http://enterprisechess.com/>
Mastering ArchiMate <http://masteringarchimate.com/>
Architecture for Real Enterprises 
<https://www.infoworld.com/blog/architecture-for-real-enterprises/> at InfoWorld
On Slippery Ice <https://eapj.org/on-slippery-ice/> at EAPJ

> On 23 Dec 2019, at 01:47, Gerben Wierda <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I am migrating an old dovecot 2.2.30 (macOS High SIerra, macO S Server) to a 
> new server with dovecot 2.3.7 (macOS Mojave, macports).
> 
> To get the data over, I’m trying to do a reverse backup with doveadm between 
> an old and a new mail server, but failing to do so. I’m trying (from the new 
> server, the old server is 192.168.2.67):
> 
> doveadm -Dv \
>   -o imapc_host=192.168.2.67 \
>   -o imapc_user=gerben \
>   -o imapc_password=’[snip]' \
>   -o imapc_features='rfc822.size fetch-headers’ \
>   -o mail_prefetch_count=20 \
>   -o mail_fsync=never \
>   -o imapc_ssl=starttls \
>   -o imapc_ssl_verify=no \
>    backup -R -u gerben imapc:
> 
> It seems to start to work:
> 
> dsync(gerben): Debug: imapc(192.168.2.67:143): Created new connection
> dsync(gerben): Debug: imapc(192.168.2.67:143): Looking up IP address 
> (reconnect_ok=true, last_connect=1577059834)
> dsync(gerben): Debug: imapc(192.168.2.67:143): Connecting to 192.168.2.67:143
> dsync(gerben): Info: imapc(192.168.2.67:143): Connected to 192.168.2.67:143 
> (local 192.168.2.66:50804)
> dsync(gerben): Debug: imapc(192.168.2.67:143): Server capabilities: IMAP4rev1 
> LITERAL+ SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE IDLE STARTTLS LOGINDISABLED 
> XAPPLEPUSHSERVICE
> dsync(gerben): Debug: imapc(192.168.2.67:143): Starting SSL handshake
> dsync(gerben): Debug: imapc(192.168.2.67:143): SSL handshake successful, 
> ignoring invalid certificate: SSL certificate doesn't match expected host 
> name 192.168.2.67: No match to 2 SubjectAltNames
> dsync(gerben): Debug: imapc(192.168.2.67:143): Server capabilities: IMAP4rev1 
> LITERAL+ SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE IDLE XAPPLEPUSHSERVICE 
> AUTH=CRAM-MD5 AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=LOGIN AUTH=DIGEST-MD5 AUTH=GSSAPI
> dsync(gerben): Debug: imapc(192.168.2.67:143): Authenticating as gerben
> dsync(gerben): Debug: imapc(192.168.2.67:143): Server capabilities: IMAP4rev1 
> LITERAL+ SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE IDLE SORT SORT=DISPLAY 
> THREAD=REFERENCES THREAD=REFS THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT MULTIAPPEND URL-PARTIAL 
> CATENATE UNSELECT CHILDREN NAMESPACE UIDPLUS LIST-EXTENDED I18NLEVEL=1 
> CONDSTORE QRESYNC ESEARCH ESORT SEARCHRES WITHIN CONTEXT=SEARCH LIST-STATUS 
> BINARY MOVE XAPPLEPUSHSERVICE COMPRESS=DEFLATE QUOTA ACL RIGHTS=texk
> dsync(gerben): Debug: imapc(192.168.2.67:143): Authenticated successfully
> dsync(gerben): Debug: imapc: root=, index=, indexpvt=, control=, inbox=, alt=
> dsync(gerben): Debug: fts: Indexes disabled for namespace ''
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain S: Namespace  has location imapc:
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Local mailbox tree: INBOX 
> guid=184a4c066b219a5dd73700009e3b11ac uid_validity=1570382187 uid_next=18 
> subs=no last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain S: Local mailbox tree: INBOX 
> guid=c92f64f79f0d1ed01e6d5b314f04886c uid_validity=1232523592 uid_next=482711 
> subs=no last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Local mailbox tree: Notspam_train 
> guid=e0cc8c076b219a5dd73700009e3b11ac uid_validity=1570382188 uid_next=10 
> subs=no last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain S: Local mailbox tree: zzz-Old 
> guid=c71fb29dcfd52e98ffb476033482311a uid_validity=1246525241 uid_next=1 
> subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Local mailbox tree: Sent 
> guid=e8c3b0076b219a5dd73700009e3b11ac uid_validity=1570382189 uid_next=17 
> subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=1570382187
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain S: Local mailbox tree: zzz-Old/Werk 
> guid=493c1b0ff8829799ae854dcdd35bdc49 uid_validity=1246525654 uid_next=1 
> subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Local mailbox tree: Spam_train 
> guid=7076d5076b219a5dd73700009e3b11ac uid_validity=1570382190 uid_next=3719 
> subs=no last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain S: Local mailbox tree: 
> zzz-Old/Werk/UitNFIMailboxen guid=1da8c05ea358b80ee1c2f3a01cc7f2cc 
> uid_validity=1232523595 uid_next=118 subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Local mailbox tree: Trash 
> guid=4810f5076b219a5dd73700009e3b11ac uid_validity=1570382191 uid_next=3 
> subs=no last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain S: Local mailbox tree: zzz-Old/Werk/RvdR 
> guid=44c6bc132d8b2818930a6bcf0d2a5706 uid_validity=1232523595 uid_next=349 
> subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Local mailbox tree: Junk 
> guid=f8a063086b219a5dd73700009e3b11ac uid_validity=1570382194 uid_next=1 
> subs=no last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain S: Local mailbox tree: zzz-Old/Werk/Nieuwe Baan 
> guid=75a5c26e35145b08ff594eb249867d0e uid_validity=1232523595 uid_next=380 
> subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Local mailbox tree: Subfolder 
> guid=d8d293340d2c9a5d1d3a00009e3b11ac uid_validity=1570382195 uid_next=1 
> subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=1570384909
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain S: Local mailbox tree: zzz-Old/Werk/NFI 
> guid=3d3c4682642c7ccb58523e0726a0ecff uid_validity=1232523595 uid_next=289 
> subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Local mailbox tree: Subfolder/SUbSubFolder 
> guid=08fb2d1a402c9a5d1d3a00009e3b11ac uid_validity=1570382196 uid_next=1 
> subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=1570384960
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain S: Local mailbox tree: zzz-Old/Projects 
> guid=7843f3ba3f3bfb3c4c965c1bd59b219a uid_validity=1246525385 uid_next=1 
> subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Local mailbox tree: Archive 
> guid=d89d4d148903005e6b5501009e3b11ac uid_validity=1570382197 uid_next=1 
> subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=1570382187
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain S: Local mailbox tree: zzz-Old/Projects/TeX 
> guid=2063d233e1533d17e6910c2d1c3d802c uid_validity=1232523594 uid_next=1 
> subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Local mailbox tree: Drafts 
> guid=60cd72148903005e6b5501009e3b11ac uid_validity=1570382198 uid_next=1 
> subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=1570382187
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain S: Local mailbox tree: zzz-Old/Projects/TeX/Word 
> Hell guid=bbd58ddde1f98e962507f8868f2b8372 uid_validity=1232523594 
> uid_next=123 subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain S: Local mailbox tree: 
> zzz-Old/Projects/TeX/TUG2003 guid=af8b9bd0abed0f24ff41acd3e0f6cfcf 
> uid_validity=1232523594 uid_next=202 subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain S: Local mailbox tree: zzz-Old/Projects/TeX/TUG 
> ADC guid=2c828ce4f978e96b8199cd3364cf831a uid_validity=1232523594 
> uid_next=127 subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Remote mailbox tree: INBOX 
> guid=c92f64f79f0d1ed01e6d5b314f04886c uid_validity=1232523592 uid_next=482711 
> subs=no last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Remote mailbox tree: zzz-Old 
> guid=c71fb29dcfd52e98ffb476033482311a uid_validity=1246525241 uid_next=1 
> subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Remote mailbox tree: zzz-Old/Werk 
> guid=493c1b0ff8829799ae854dcdd35bdc49 uid_validity=1246525654 uid_next=1 
> subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Remote mailbox tree: 
> zzz-Old/Werk/UitNFIMailboxen guid=1da8c05ea358b80ee1c2f3a01cc7f2cc 
> uid_validity=1232523595 uid_next=118 subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Remote mailbox tree: zzz-Old/Werk/RvdR 
> guid=44c6bc132d8b2818930a6bcf0d2a5706 uid_validity=1232523595 uid_next=349 
> subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Remote mailbox tree: zzz-Old/Werk/Nieuwe Baan 
> guid=75a5c26e35145b08ff594eb249867d0e uid_validity=1232523595 uid_next=380 
> subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Remote mailbox tree: zzz-Old/Werk/NFI 
> guid=3d3c4682642c7ccb58523e0726a0ecff uid_validity=1232523595 uid_next=289 
> subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Remote mailbox tree: zzz-Old/Projects 
> guid=7843f3ba3f3bfb3c4c965c1bd59b219a uid_validity=1246525385 uid_next=1 
> subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Remote mailbox tree: zzz-Old/Projects/TeX 
> guid=2063d233e1533d17e6910c2d1c3d802c uid_validity=1232523594 uid_next=1 
> subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Remote mailbox tree: zzz-Old/Projects/TeX/Word 
> Hell guid=bbd58ddde1f98e962507f8868f2b8372 uid_validity=1232523594 
> uid_next=123 subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Remote mailbox tree: 
> zzz-Old/Projects/TeX/TUG2003 guid=af8b9bd0abed0f24ff41acd3e0f6cfcf 
> uid_validity=1232523594 uid_next=202 subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Remote mailbox tree: zzz-Old/Projects/TeX/TUG 
> ADC guid=2c828ce4f978e96b8199cd3364cf831a uid_validity=1232523594 
> uid_next=127 subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain S: Local mailbox tree: zzz-Old/Projects/TeX/TUG 
> guid=0ff5d314b54457b60c266634bca9898a uid_validity=1232523594 uid_next=242 
> subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Remote mailbox tree: zzz-Old/Projects/TeX/TUG 
> guid=0ff5d314b54457b60c266634bca9898a uid_validity=1232523594 uid_next=242 
> subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=0
> 
> etc. Then, at some point, it changes to:
> 
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Mailbox AAA Superjunk: 
> local=00000000000000000000000000000000/0/0, 
> remote=3232b6d3762f0d825fa9c7a1499b292f/0/1: mailbox not selectable yet
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Mailbox APG: 
> local=00000000000000000000000000000000/0/0, 
> remote=d857f802643888ecbec4214ad6b7717e/0/1: mailbox not selectable yet
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Mailbox Administrator: 
> local=00000000000000000000000000000000/0/0, 
> remote=8be9e36e5e0d2a6a87de584aaca0193f/0/1: mailbox not selectable yet
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Mailbox Apple: 
> local=00000000000000000000000000000000/0/0, 
> remote=e85a0aa21c23f5abd2975a89b6820d63/0/1: mailbox not selectable yet
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Mailbox Apple Mail To Do: 
> local=00000000000000000000000000000000/0/0, 
> remote=6275568b3221fc326872b07eefccd0b2/0/1: mailbox not selectable yet
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Mailbox Archive: 
> local=d89d4d148903005e6b5501009e3b11ac/0/1, 
> remote=51a58e1d1d5c491aac71488647b20224/0/1: GUIDs conflict - will be merged 
> later
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Mailbox Bounces: 
> local=00000000000000000000000000000000/0/0, 
> remote=3479a3b099333fa68dd4b912625af777/0/1: mailbox not selectable yet
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Mailbox Calendar Events: 
> local=00000000000000000000000000000000/0/0, 
> remote=498953ab9976b9c77b62da8cb4dd790a/0/1: mailbox not selectable yet
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Mailbox DMARC: 
> local=00000000000000000000000000000000/0/0, 
> remote=decbde7a60591d2b65d074f75f07845f/0/1: mailbox not selectable yet
> 
> with lots of 'mailbox not selectable yet'
> 
> After I see all the remote (old server) mailboxes being mentioned such, then 
> I see
> 
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Deleting mailbox 'Archive' (GUID 
> d89d4d148903005e6b5501009e3b11ac): UIDVALIDITY changed (1295434254 -> 
> 1570382197)
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Deleting mailbox 'Drafts' (GUID 
> 60cd72148903005e6b5501009e3b11ac): UIDVALIDITY changed (1232523592 -> 
> 1570382198)
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Deleting mailbox 'INBOX' (GUID 
> 184a4c066b219a5dd73700009e3b11ac): UIDVALIDITY changed (1232523592 -> 
> 1570382187)
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Deleting mailbox 'Junk' (GUID 
> f8a063086b219a5dd73700009e3b11ac): UIDVALIDITY changed (1295433962 -> 
> 1570382194)
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Deleting mailbox 'Notspam_train' (GUID 
> e0cc8c076b219a5dd73700009e3b11ac): Mailbox doesn't exist
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Deleting mailbox 'Sent' (GUID 
> e8c3b0076b219a5dd73700009e3b11ac): Mailbox doesn't exist
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Deleting mailbox 'Spam_train' (GUID 
> 7076d5076b219a5dd73700009e3b11ac): Mailbox doesn't exist
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Deleting mailbox 'Subfolder/SUbSubFolder' 
> (GUID 08fb2d1a402c9a5d1d3a00009e3b11ac): Mailbox doesn't exist
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Deleting mailbox 'Subfolder' (GUID 
> d8d293340d2c9a5d1d3a00009e3b11ac): Mailbox doesn't exist
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain M: Deleting mailbox 'Trash' (GUID 
> 4810f5076b219a5dd73700009e3b11ac): Mailbox doesn't exist
> dsync(gerben): Debug: doveadm-sieve: Iterating Sieve mailbox attributes
> dsync(gerben): Debug: sieve: Pigeonhole version 0.5.7.1 () initializing
> dsync(gerben): Debug: sieve: include: sieve_global is not set; it is 
> currently not possible to include `:global' scripts.
> dsync(gerben): Debug: sieve: Sieve imapsieve plugin for Pigeonhole version 
> 0.5.7.1 () loaded
> dsync(gerben): Debug: sieve: Sieve Extprograms plugin for Pigeonhole version 
> 0.5.7.1 () loaded
> dsync(gerben): Debug: sieve: file storage: Using active Sieve script path: 
> /private/var/mail/nl.rna.mail/rules/gerben/dovecot.sieve
> dsync(gerben): Debug: sieve: file storage: Using script storage path: 
> /private/var/mail/nl.rna.mail/rules/gerben/gerben
> dsync(gerben): Debug: sieve: file storage: Using permissions from 
> /private/var/mail/nl.rna.mail/rules/gerben/gerben: mode=0700 gid=-1
> dsync(gerben): Debug: sieve: file storage: Relative path to sieve storage in 
> active link: gerben/
> dsync(gerben): Debug: sieve: file storage: sync: Synchronization active
> dsync(gerben): Debug: sieve: file storage: quota: Storage limit: 52428800 
> bytes
> dsync(gerben): Error: Mailbox INBOX sync: mailbox_delete failed: INBOX can't 
> be deleted.
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain S: Remote mailbox tree: INBOX 
> guid=184a4c066b219a5dd73700009e3b11ac uid_validity=1570382187 uid_next=18 
> subs=no last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain S: Remote mailbox tree: Notspam_train 
> guid=e0cc8c076b219a5dd73700009e3b11ac uid_validity=1570382188 uid_next=10 
> subs=no last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain S: Remote mailbox tree: Sent 
> guid=e8c3b0076b219a5dd73700009e3b11ac uid_validity=1570382189 uid_next=17 
> subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=1570382187
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain S: Remote mailbox tree: Spam_train 
> guid=7076d5076b219a5dd73700009e3b11ac uid_validity=1570382190 uid_next=3719 
> subs=no last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain S: Remote mailbox tree: Trash 
> guid=4810f5076b219a5dd73700009e3b11ac uid_validity=1570382191 uid_next=3 
> subs=no last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain S: Remote mailbox tree: Junk 
> guid=f8a063086b219a5dd73700009e3b11ac uid_validity=1570382194 uid_next=1 
> subs=no last_change=0 last_subs=0
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain S: Remote mailbox tree: Subfolder 
> guid=d8d293340d2c9a5d1d3a00009e3b11ac uid_validity=1570382195 uid_next=1 
> subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=1570384909
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain S: Remote mailbox tree: Subfolder/SUbSubFolder 
> guid=08fb2d1a402c9a5d1d3a00009e3b11ac uid_validity=1570382196 uid_next=1 
> subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=1570384960
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain S: Remote mailbox tree: Archive 
> guid=d89d4d148903005e6b5501009e3b11ac uid_validity=1570382197 uid_next=1 
> subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=1570382187
> dsync(gerben): Debug: brain S: Remote mailbox tree: Drafts 
> guid=60cd72148903005e6b5501009e3b11ac uid_validity=1570382198 uid_next=1 
> subs=yes last_change=0 last_subs=1570382187
> dsync(gerben): Debug: imapc(192.168.2.67:143): Disconnected
> 
> But nothing has been copied over and while it states it has deleted local 
> mailboxes (such as Subfolder/SUbSubFolder), they are still there. In other 
> words: nothing happens.
> 
> Well, not quite. The first time I ran this, local directory 
> /var/mail/nl.rna.mail/rules/gerben/gerben/tmp was created.
> 
> Can anyone see here what is going wrong?
> 
> Gerben Wierda
> Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture <http://enterprisechess.com/>
> Mastering ArchiMate <http://masteringarchimate.com/>
> Architecture for Real Enterprises 
> <https://www.infoworld.com/blog/architecture-for-real-enterprises/> at 
> InfoWorld
> On Slippery Ice <https://eapj.org/on-slippery-ice/> at EAPJ
> 

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