SELinux?
Marek Gresko via dovecot <[1][email protected]> ezt irta (ido"pont:
2025. nov. 20., Csue 20:25):
Apparently, the file is not ignored, because when I type wrong file name
in the config, I immediately get error on startup.
Marek
Odoslane pomocou bezpecneho emailu Proton Mail.
stvrtok 20. novembra 2025, 19:52, Aki Tuomi
<[2][email protected]> napisal/a:
> If you are lacking !try_include or !include in your dovecot.conf,
/etc/dovecot/conf.d files are ignored.
>
> Aki
>
> > On 20/11/2025 20:40 EET Marek Gresko via dovecot
[3][email protected] wrote:
> >
> > It seems copying the pem files to the default location from the
configured one solved the problem. Is it a bug or configuration problem
the files were not searched in configured path?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Marek
> >
> > Odoslane pomocou bezpecneho emailu Proton Mail.
> >
> > stvrtok 20. novembra 2025, 19:13, Marek Gresko via dovecot
[4][email protected] napisal/a:
> >
> > > OK, while inspecting dovecot I see the problem.
> > >
> > > doveconf -n reports different file paths than 10-ssl.conf file.
> > >
> > > It is:
> > >
> > > ssl_server {
> > > ssl_server_ca_file = /etc/pki/tls/certs/cacert.pem
> > > #ssl_server_dh_file = /etc/dovecot/dh.pem
> > > ssl_server_cert_file = /etc/pki/tls/certs/dovecot.pem
> > > ssl_server_key_file = /etc/pki/tls/private/dovecot.pem
> > > #cert_file = /etc/pki/tls/certs/dovecot.pem
> > > #key_file = /etc/pki/tls/private/dovecot.pem
> > > #prefer_ciphers = server
> > > request_client_cert = no
> > > }
> > >
> > > there. The file is definitely read, because when I uncomment this
#ssl_verify_client_cert = no I get suntax error. I cannot understand why
the configuration is not accepted. If there is no meaningful reasoning
on that, I can fix by configuration, I can overwrite the files in
default paths by the wanted files.
> > >
> > > Marek
> > >
> > > Odoslane pomocou bezpecneho emailu Proton Mail.
> > >
> > > stvrtok 20. novembra 2025, 17:46, Aki Tuomi
[5][email protected] napisal/a:
> > >
> > > > Can you post doveconf -n output?
> > > >
> > > > Aki
> > > >
> > > > > On 20/11/2025 18:37 EET Marek Gresko via dovecot
[6][email protected] wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I run ls -lu on the key file. It's access time is not updated.
It seems dovecot does not even read it. What is the correct syntax?
> > > > >
> > > > > Should it be in the ssl_server section? Should it be
ssl_server_cert_file or cert file parameter? Or even another?
> > > > >
> > > > > Marek
> > > > >
> > > > > Odoslane pomocou bezpecneho emailu Proton Mail.
> > > > >
> > > > > stvrtok 20. novembra 2025, 17:26, Marek Gresko via dovecot
[7][email protected] napisal/a:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Both these command return same result as the previous I
posted.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Odoslane pomocou bezpecneho emailu Proton Mail.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > stvrtok 20. novembra 2025, 17:07, Aki Tuomi
[8][email protected] napisal/a:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > either do
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > openssl s_client -connect host:993
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > or
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > openssl s_client -connect host:143 -starttls imap
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Aki
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 20/11/2025 17:49 EET Marek Gresko via dovecot
[9][email protected] wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > When trying openssl s_client to port 143, I get:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > no peer certificate available
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > No client certificate CA names sent
> > > > > > > > Negotiated TLS1.3 group: <NULL>
> > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > SSL handshake has read 5 bytes and written 1556 bytes
> > > > > > > > Verification: OK
> > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > New, (NONE), Cipher is (NONE)
> > > > > > > > Protocol: TLSv1.3
> > > > > > > > This TLS version forbids renegotiation.
> > > > > > > > Compression: NONE
> > > > > > > > Expansion: NONE
> > > > > > > > No ALPN negotiated
> > > > > > > > Early data was not sent
> > > > > > > > Verify return code: 0 (ok)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why there is no certificate present? Because dovecot
refuse to present it since it thinks it is weak?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Marek
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Odoslane pomocou bezpecneho emailu Proton Mail.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > stvrtok 20. novembra 2025, 16:45, Marek Gresko
[10][email protected] napisal/a:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I added ca_file to the server section. I do not want
clients to present certificates, so I did not create the ssl client
section you proposed.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Any other suggestion?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I still cannot imagine what could be the cause.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Marek
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Odoslane pomocou bezpecneho emailu Proton Mail.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > stvrtok 20. novembra 2025, 16:13, pgnd
[11][email protected] napisal/a:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > after upgrading from Fedora 42 to Fedora 43 the
dovecot got upgraded to version 2.4.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > imo, a sloppy choice on their part, forcing the need
to significantly change imap config at the same time as an OS upgrade,
and 'breaking imap' for lots of folks.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Should the authority certificate be configured
somewhere in dovecot?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > start with a thorough read of
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
[12]https://doc.dovecot.org/2.4.2/core/config/ssl.html
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > if using self-signed certs, you'll end up with
something similar to
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ssl = required
> > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > ssl_server {
> > > > > > > > > > ca_file = /path/to/your_CA.crt.pem
> > > > > > > > > > cert_file = /path/to/your_domain.server.ec.crt.pem
> > > > > > > > > > key_file = /path/to/your_domain.server.ec.key.pem
> > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > }
> > > > > > > > > > ssl_client {
> > > > > > > > > > ca_file = /path/to/your_CA.crt.pem
> > > > > > > > > > cert_file = /path/to/your_domain.client.ec.crt.pem
> > > > > > > > > > key_file = /path/to/your_domain.client.ec.key.pem
> > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > }
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > > dovecot mailing list -- [13][email protected]
> > > > > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to
[14][email protected] Both these command return same result as
the previous I posted.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Odoslane pomocou bezpecneho emailu [1]Proton Mail.
> > > > > > stvrtok 20. novembra 2025, 17:07, Aki Tuomi
[15][email protected]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > napisal/a:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > either do
> > > > > >
> > > > > > openssl s_client -connect host:993
> > > > > >
> > > > > > or
> > > > > >
> > > > > > openssl s_client -connect host:143 -starttls imap
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Aki
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 20/11/2025 17:49 EET Marek Gresko via dovecot
> > > > > > <[2][16][email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When trying openssl s_client to port 143, I get:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > no peer certificate available
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > No client certificate CA names sent
> > > > > > Negotiated TLS1.3 group: <NULL>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > SSL handshake has read 5 bytes and written 1556 bytes
> > > > > > Verification: OK
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > New, (NONE), Cipher is (NONE)
> > > > > > Protocol: TLSv1.3
> > > > > > This TLS version forbids renegotiation.
> > > > > > Compression: NONE
> > > > > > Expansion: NONE
> > > > > > No ALPN negotiated
> > > > > > Early data was not sent
> > > > > > Verify return code: 0 (ok)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why there is no certificate present? Because dovecot refuse
to present
> > > > > > it since it thinks it is weak?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Marek
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Odoslane pomocou bezpecneho emailu Proton Mail.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > stvrtok 20. novembra 2025, 16:45, Marek Gresko
> > > > > > <[3][17][email protected]> napisal/a:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I added ca_file to the server section. I do not want clients
to
> > > > > > present certificates, so I did not create the ssl client
section you
> > > > > > proposed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any other suggestion?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I still cannot imagine what could be the cause.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Marek
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Odoslane pomocou bezpecneho emailu Proton Mail.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > stvrtok 20. novembra 2025, 16:13, pgnd
[4][18][email protected]
> > > > > > napisal/a:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > after upgrading from Fedora 42 to Fedora 43 the dovecot got
> > > > > > upgraded to version 2.4.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > imo, a sloppy choice on their part, forcing the need to
> > > > > > significantly change imap config at the same time as an OS
> > > > > > upgrade, and 'breaking imap' for lots of folks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Should the authority certificate be configured somewhere in
> > > > > > dovecot?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > start with a thorough read of
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [5][19]https://doc.dovecot.org/2.4.2/core/config/ssl.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > if using self-signed certs, you'll end up with something
similar
> > > > > > to
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ssl = required
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > ssl_server {
> > > > > > ca_file = /path/to/your_CA.crt.pem
> > > > > > cert_file = /path/to/your_domain.server.ec.crt.pem
> > > > > > key_file = /path/to/your_domain.server.ec.key.pem
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > }
> > > > > > ssl_client {
> > > > > > ca_file = /path/to/your_CA.crt.pem
> > > > > > cert_file = /path/to/your_domain.client.ec.crt.pem
> > > > > > key_file = /path/to/your_domain.client.ec.key.pem
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > }
> > > > > >
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > dovecot mailing list -- [6][20][email protected]
> > > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to
[7][21][email protected]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > References
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Visible links
> > > > > > 1. [22]https://proton.me/mail/home
> > > > > > 2. mailto:[23][email protected]
> > > > > > 3. mailto:[24][email protected]
> > > > > > 4. mailto:[25][email protected]
> > > > > > 5. [26]https://doc.dovecot.org/2.4.2/core/config/ssl.html
> > > > > > 6. mailto:[27][email protected]
> > > > > > 7. mailto:[28][email protected]
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > dovecot mailing list -- [29][email protected]
> > > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to
[30][email protected]
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > dovecot mailing list -- [31][email protected]
> > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to [32][email protected]
OK, while inspecting dovecot I see the problem.
> > >
> > > doveconf -n reports different file paths than 10-ssl.conf file.
> > > It is:
> > > ssl_server {
> > > ssl_server_ca_file = /etc/pki/tls/certs/cacert.pem
> > > #ssl_server_dh_file = /etc/dovecot/dh.pem
> > > ssl_server_cert_file = /etc/pki/tls/certs/dovecot.pem
> > > ssl_server_key_file = /etc/pki/tls/private/dovecot.pem
> > > #cert_file = /etc/pki/tls/certs/dovecot.pem
> > > #key_file = /etc/pki/tls/private/dovecot.pem
> > > #prefer_ciphers = server
> > > request_client_cert = no
> > > }
> > > there. The file is definitely read, because when I uncomment
> > > this #ssl_verify_client_cert = no I get suntax error. I cannot
understand
> > > why the configuration is not accepted. If there is no meaningful
reasoning
> > > on that, I can fix by configuration, I can overwrite the files in
default
> > > paths by the wanted files.
> > > Marek
> > > Odoslane pomocou bezpecneho emailu [1]Proton Mail.
> > > stvrtok 20. novembra 2025, 17:46, Aki Tuomi
[33][email protected]
> > >
> > > napisal/a:
> > >
> > > Can you post doveconf -n output?
> > >
> > > Aki
> > >
> > > On 20/11/2025 18:37 EET Marek Gresko via dovecot
> > > <[2][34][email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > I run ls -lu on the key file. It's access time is not updated. It
> > > seems dovecot does not even read it. What is the correct syntax?
> > >
> > > Should it be in the ssl_server section? Should it be
> > > ssl_server_cert_file or cert file parameter? Or even another?
> > >
> > > Marek
> > >
> > > Odoslane pomocou bezpecneho emailu Proton Mail.
> > >
> > > stvrtok 20. novembra 2025, 17:26, Marek Gresko via dovecot
> > > <[3][35][email protected]> napisal/a:
> > >
> > > Both these command return same result as the previous I posted.
> > >
> > > Odoslane pomocou bezpecneho emailu Proton Mail.
> > >
> > > stvrtok 20. novembra 2025, 17:07, Aki Tuomi
> > > [4][36][email protected] napisal/a:
> > >
> > > either do
> > >
> > > openssl s_client -connect host:993
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > openssl s_client -connect host:143 -starttls imap
> > >
> > > Aki
> > >
> > > On 20/11/2025 17:49 EET Marek Gresko via dovecot
> > > [5][37][email protected] wrote:
> > >
> > > When trying openssl s_client to port 143, I get:
> > >
> > > no peer certificate available
> > > --
> > > No client certificate CA names sent
> > > Negotiated TLS1.3 group: <NULL>
> > >
> > > ---
> > > SSL handshake has read 5 bytes and written 1556 bytes
> > > Verification: OK
> > > ---
> > > New, (NONE), Cipher is (NONE)
> > > Protocol: TLSv1.3
> > > This TLS version forbids renegotiation.
> > > Compression: NONE
> > > Expansion: NONE
> > > No ALPN negotiated
> > > Early data was not sent
> > > Verify return code: 0 (ok)
> > >
> > > Why there is no certificate present? Because dovecot refuse to
> > > present it since it thinks it is weak?
> > >
> > > Marek
> > >
> > > Odoslane pomocou bezpecneho emailu Proton Mail.
> > >
> > > stvrtok 20. novembra 2025, 16:45, Marek Gresko
> > > [6][38][email protected] napisal/a:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I added ca_file to the server section. I do not want clients
> > > to present certificates, so I did not create the ssl client
> > > section you proposed.
> > >
> > > Any other suggestion?
> > >
> > > I still cannot imagine what could be the cause.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Marek
> > >
> > > Odoslane pomocou bezpecneho emailu Proton Mail.
> > >
> > > stvrtok 20. novembra 2025, 16:13, pgnd [7][39][email protected]
> > > napisal/a:
> > >
> > > after upgrading from Fedora 42 to Fedora 43 the dovecot
> > > got upgraded to version 2.4.
> > >
> > > imo, a sloppy choice on their part, forcing the need to
> > > significantly change imap config at the same time as an OS
> > > upgrade, and 'breaking imap' for lots of folks.
> > >
> > > Should the authority certificate be configured somewhere
> > > in dovecot?
> > >
> > > start with a thorough read of
> > >
> > > [8][40]https://doc.dovecot.org/2.4.2/core/config/ssl.html
> > >
> > > if using self-signed certs, you'll end up with something
> > > similar to
> > >
> > > ssl = required
> > > ...
> > > ssl_server {
> > > ca_file = /path/to/your_CA.crt.pem
> > > cert_file = /path/to/your_domain.server.ec.crt.pem
> > > key_file = /path/to/your_domain.server.ec.key.pem
> > > ...
> > > }
> > > ssl_client {
> > > ca_file = /path/to/your_CA.crt.pem
> > > cert_file = /path/to/your_domain.client.ec.crt.pem
> > > key_file = /path/to/your_domain.client.ec.key.pem
> > > ...
> > > }
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > dovecot mailing list -- [9][41][email protected]
> > > To unsubscribe send an email to [10][42][email protected]
> > > Both these command return same result as the previous I posted.
> > >
> > > Odoslane pomocou bezpecneho emailu [1]Proton Mail.
> > > stvrtok 20. novembra 2025, 17:07, Aki Tuomi
> > > [11][43][email protected]
> > >
> > > napisal/a:
> > >
> > > either do
> > >
> > > openssl s_client -connect host:993
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > openssl s_client -connect host:143 -starttls imap
> > >
> > > Aki
> > >
> > > On 20/11/2025 17:49 EET Marek Gresko via dovecot
> > > <[2][12][44][email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > When trying openssl s_client to port 143, I get:
> > >
> > > no peer certificate available
> > > --
> > > No client certificate CA names sent
> > > Negotiated TLS1.3 group: <NULL>
> > >
> > > ---
> > > SSL handshake has read 5 bytes and written 1556 bytes
> > > Verification: OK
> > > ---
> > > New, (NONE), Cipher is (NONE)
> > > Protocol: TLSv1.3
> > > This TLS version forbids renegotiation.
> > > Compression: NONE
> > > Expansion: NONE
> > > No ALPN negotiated
> > > Early data was not sent
> > > Verify return code: 0 (ok)
> > >
> > > Why there is no certificate present? Because dovecot refuse to
> > > present
> > > it since it thinks it is weak?
> > >
> > > Marek
> > >
> > > Odoslane pomocou bezpecneho emailu Proton Mail.
> > >
> > > stvrtok 20. novembra 2025, 16:45, Marek Gresko
> > > <[3][13][45][email protected]> napisal/a:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I added ca_file to the server section. I do not want clients to
> > > present certificates, so I did not create the ssl client section
you
> > > proposed.
> > >
> > > Any other suggestion?
> > >
> > > I still cannot imagine what could be the cause.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Marek
> > >
> > > Odoslane pomocou bezpecneho emailu Proton Mail.
> > >
> > > stvrtok 20. novembra 2025, 16:13, pgnd
[4][14][46][email protected]
> > > napisal/a:
> > >
> > > after upgrading from Fedora 42 to Fedora 43 the dovecot got
> > > upgraded to version 2.4.
> > >
> > > imo, a sloppy choice on their part, forcing the need to
> > > significantly change imap config at the same time as an OS
> > > upgrade, and 'breaking imap' for lots of folks.
> > >
> > > Should the authority certificate be configured somewhere in
> > > dovecot?
> > >
> > > start with a thorough read of
> > >
> > > [5][15][47]https://doc.dovecot.org/2.4.2/core/config/ssl.html
> > >
> > > if using self-signed certs, you'll end up with something similar
> > > to
> > >
> > > ssl = required
> > > ...
> > > ssl_server {
> > > ca_file = /path/to/your_CA.crt.pem
> > > cert_file = /path/to/your_domain.server.ec.crt.pem
> > > key_file = /path/to/your_domain.server.ec.key.pem
> > > ...
> > > }
> > > ssl_client {
> > > ca_file = /path/to/your_CA.crt.pem
> > > cert_file = /path/to/your_domain.client.ec.crt.pem
> > > key_file = /path/to/your_domain.client.ec.key.pem
> > > ...
> > > }
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > dovecot mailing list -- [6][16][48][email protected]
> > > To unsubscribe send an email to
[7][17][49][email protected]
> > >
> > > References
> > >
> > > Visible links
> > > 1. [18][50]https://proton.me/mail/home
> > > 2. mailto:[19][51][email protected]
> > > 3. mailto:[20][52][email protected]
> > > 4. mailto:[21][53][email protected]
> > > 5. [22][54]https://doc.dovecot.org/2.4.2/core/config/ssl.html
> > > 6. mailto:[23][55][email protected]
> > > 7. mailto:[24][56][email protected]
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > dovecot mailing list -- [25][57][email protected]
> > > To unsubscribe send an email to [26][58][email protected]
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > dovecot mailing list -- [27][59][email protected]
> > > To unsubscribe send an email to [28][60][email protected]
> > >
> > > References
> > >
> > > Visible links
> > > 1. [61]https://proton.me/mail/home
> > > 2. mailto:[62][email protected]
> > > 3. mailto:[63][email protected]
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