"Lee Bahr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist gang
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Not true about the cost of Beppe's unit vs Dan's unit.  Beppe said they are
working on a NEW DFS-4 that used a chip producing NO spurs, and the new unit
would be less expensive then thier present DDS-4.  (See below).  Plus it has
a neat cabinet.  If you figure the cost of a box plus silk screening and you
don't have to buy a power supply or any knobs or hardware plus the unit
includes a display, I would say the unit easily could sell for more then
$130 and have to sell for more then $130..  Also, Beppe's unit is built.  So
far there is no mention if the $130 unit is a kit where you have to build
the unit or if it is a pre stuffed tested board ready to mount in a cabinet.
Also how does it compare to Beppe's unit on spurs?.  Beppe claims his unit
has no spurs at all.  That would be impressive.  Beppe has given us some
real facts regarding his unit.  I find that relevant.  Talking about what
colored LEDs are going to be on a board and how many there are tells me very
little about the unit.  (It also tells me something about the producer).
Maybe the $130 unit will be a good deal, but from what I have heard to date,
you could not determine much from what was given the group. It doesn't sound
like much engineering has been done on the unit if any to date from my
prospective. So how do you come up with $130 before the design is firm?
(The truth is, you can't).   I would consider this project pie in the sky
until I knew more about what actually if ever will be offered.

I realize some of you guys take exception with me.  So be it. I learned a
long time ago, if something seems too good to be true, it probably is too
good to be true.  I am impressed with Beppe's unit because, they already
have one product for sale, they are now developing another one at lower
cost, and he has given us some real facts about his unit. Their design is
not as yet firm and consequently they have not as yet determined the cost
but their target is to lower it from the DDS-4 price.  This is good
engineering and marketing practice.  Also, Beppe's unit will be complete. I
feel a complete unit with no spurs is worth more then $130 and feel such a
unit will cost the manufacturer more then $130 to produce. So, I'll be
willing to pay more then $130 for his new DFS-4. (Let's see how much you
have in a $130 unit after you add all the extra stuff to make it work and
look good). Also, will this unit really be offered for $130 or will the
price slide and float? Sure, I would like a Rolls Royce for $20,000 but I
realize you can't have something like that for this price. If the $130 unit
turns out to be a real product, great!  But to finish it off it is surley
going to cost more then $130.  Time will tell which race horse will deliver.
For now, based on what has been told to me, I'm betting on Beppe's unit to
be a winner.

The cost of Drake twins costing less then a Wood Box unit?  Well are you
talking about 1975 dollars or 2005 dollars?  Are we talking about a DDS-4 or
a DFS-4?  (Maybe the apples and the oranges are getting mixed up here).  My
advice to myself is: don't buy based on price, buy based on value. Take it
or leave it.  I don't care.

It will be interesting see what the future holds and what is developed by
these two groups and see who's intuitive reasoning was correct about these
two groups in the final analysis.

Lee, w0vt


"I'm Beppe IK3VIG, member of WoodBoxRadio Team maker of DDS-4."
"Reading discussion about the "new" FS-4 generator, we are working on
a simplified and less expensive DDS-4, called DFS-4.?"


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> PWells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist gang
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> Dan Cotsirilos mentioned two days ago that he knew of  an engineer
> wanting to produce a FS-4 clone. It received mixted reactions and then
> Beppe IK3VIG one of the DDs-4 came up and mentioned his synthesizer.
> Curiouly only positve comments were posted about the Italian product.
> Great so far . But one thing must be mentioned I am interested in Dans's
> synthesizer because its going to cost about $130 while the Italian
> component costs $475 + $58 shipping!! That's $533......double what I
> payed for my Drake twins!!
> Peter VE2FAR


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