Another one for Steve Wedge:

2B or not 2B, that is the question - Shakespeare.

Nigel Patterson

On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 5:00 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

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>   1. R-4B is "under contract" (Steve Wedge)
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>   4. Re: Bias Adjustment on TR4CW (Ron)
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> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:19:57 -0500
> From: "Steve Wedge" <[email protected]>
> To: "k4eg" <[email protected]>,      "Drake List"
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> Subject: [Drakelist] R-4B is "under contract"
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> My "demodded" Drake R-4B is sold pending payment.
>
> I'll be looking for more restoration projects at Benson (NC, Nov 20th)!  I
> seem to be settling into working on Drakes and this burden is fitting to me
> well.  I'm considering my "hobby-job" to be finding more tired Drake rigs
> and rejuvenating them.  I'm learning even more as I go, and what I'm making
> allows me to buy even more Drakes to bring back from the dead.
>
> I've always enjoyed working on Drake gear: there are some aspects that can
> be challenging, but overall, it was well-designed and much more designed
> for serviceability than many other radios of its time.  My shack has felt
> much more a "home" since I've set aside space for a set of Twins.
>
> Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
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> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:53:55 -0500
> From: "Michael A. Kelly" <[email protected]>
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> Subject: [Drakelist] Bias Adjustment on TR4CW
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> Question 1:
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> Would tube life be extended if I ran my TR4Cw at 108-110 Volts AC
> instead of 120VAC? (All of the 21 tubes, not just the transmitting
> tubes?)  I have access to a  variac and could do it easily.  Has
> anyone else done this?  Obviously output would suffer a bit, but I
> typically run 90-100 watts maximum anyway.  Aside from less possible
> total power output, is there a downside here?
>
> Question 2:
>
> When you adjust the PA Bias to 0.1 what exactly is that doing,
> decreasing the voltage similar to a variac? Does it affect all tubes,
> or just the finals?  If so, again, why not turn it down to say 0.009
> instead of 0.1 and again extend tube life?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael Kelly N4MAK
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> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:31:26 +1100
> From: "John Brown" <[email protected]>
> To: "'Michael A. Kelly'" <[email protected]>,
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> Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Bias Adjustment on TR4CW
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> Reducing the mains input probably wouldn't make any difference to tube
> life.
> Regarding the bias setting, changing this would only shift the class of
> operating the finals a tad from the design spec if any. Can't see much to
> be
> gained from doing either. Why not just use the rig and enjoy it?
> JB
>
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> On Behalf Of Michael A. Kelly
> Sent: Saturday, 12 November 2011 1:54 PM
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> Subject: [Drakelist] Bias Adjustment on TR4CW
>
> Question 1:
>
> Would tube life be extended if I ran my TR4Cw at 108-110 Volts AC
> instead of 120VAC? (All of the 21 tubes, not just the transmitting
> tubes?)  I have access to a  variac and could do it easily.  Has
> anyone else done this?  Obviously output would suffer a bit, but I
> typically run 90-100 watts maximum anyway.  Aside from less possible
> total power output, is there a downside here?
>
> Question 2:
>
> When you adjust the PA Bias to 0.1 what exactly is that doing,
> decreasing the voltage similar to a variac? Does it affect all tubes,
> or just the finals?  If so, again, why not turn it down to say 0.009
> instead of 0.1 and again extend tube life?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael Kelly N4MAK
>
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> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 04:28:44 -0800 (PST)
> From: Ron <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected], "Michael A. Kelly" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Bias Adjustment on TR4CW
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> Q1: It might help some, but it could just as well hurt the tubes.? All
> tubes are rated for a specific filament voltage.? All voltage variations,
> both above and below, specified voltage cause issues.? It is my
> understanding that indirectly heated tube (as are in all the Drakes) are
> more tolerant of slight voltage variations.? Other here have more
> background and will hopefully comment.
>
> Q2:? The bias you adjust on the Drakes is just on the finals. It is
> adjusted to make the final tubes amplify in a linear fashion.? Bias is a
> compromise, more bias generally makes the amplification more linear (less
> distortion) but less efficient, while less bias make the amplification more
> efficient and less linear (more distortion).? In the case of the Drakes, it
> is important to adjust the bias to the value that Drake engineered.?
> Anything outside of that value will either cause more "splatter"
> (distortion) or shorten tube life.?
>
> 73,
> Ron WD8SBB
>
>
> --- On Fri, 11/11/11, Michael A. Kelly <[email protected]> wrote:
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> From: Michael A. Kelly <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Drakelist] Bias Adjustment on TR4CW
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Friday, November 11, 2011, 9:53 PM
>
> Question 1:
>
> Would tube life be extended if I ran my TR4Cw at 108-110 Volts AC
> instead of 120VAC? (All of the 21 tubes, not just the transmitting
> tubes?)? I have access to a? variac and could do it easily.? Has
> anyone else done this?? Obviously output would suffer a bit, but I
> typically run 90-100 watts maximum anyway.? Aside from less possible
> total power output, is there a downside here?
>
> Question 2:
>
> When you adjust the PA Bias to 0.1 what exactly is that doing,
> decreasing the voltage similar to a variac? Does it affect all tubes,
> or just the finals?? If so, again, why not turn it down to say 0.009
> instead of 0.1 and again extend tube life?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael Kelly N4MAK
>
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