Anyone have a source (and/or part number) for the on/off push button switches controlling the C-4 Console Power?
Wayne WB5FEX, Oklahoma City -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 11:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Drakelist Digest, Vol 43, Issue 76 Send Drakelist mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Drakelist digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: TR7 ALC access when not using PS7 (Jim Shorney) 2. Re: TR7 ALC access when not using PS7 (Jim Shorney) 3. Re: TR7 ALC access when not using PS7 (Garey Barrell) 4. Re: TR7 ALC access when not using PS7 (Ron) 5. Re: TR7 ALC access when not using PS7 (Ron) 6. Re: TR7 ALC access when not using PS7 (Garey Barrell) 7. Re: TR7 ALC access when not using PS7 (Ron) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 09:56:43 -0600 From: "Jim Shorney" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 09:36:20 -0500, Garey Barrell wrote: >Oh, and the VOX relay contact is right next to it on Pin 8. A REAL relay contact too, none of this >wimpy reed relay stuff..... :-) Or surface mount transistors. 73 -Jim -- Ham Radio NU0C Lincoln, Nebraska, U.S.S.A. TR7/RV7/R7A/L7, TR6/RV6, T4XC/R4C/L4B, NCL2000, SB104A, R390A, GT550A/RV550A, HyGain 3750, IBM PS/2 - all vintage, all the time! "Give a man a URL, and he will learn for an hour; teach him to Google, and he will learn for a lifetime." HyGain 3750 User's Group - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HyGain_3750/ http://incolor.inetnebr.com/jshorney http://www.nebraskaghosts.org ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 10:01:47 -0600 From: "Jim Shorney" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 10:32:36 -0500 (EST), K9sqg wrote: >Curious as to why the VOX and ALC come from the power supply rather than the rig itself. I always thought that was a strange arrangement. Perhaps they though the rear panel of the radio was getting too cluttered. More puzzling/annoying to me is why some of the asian rigs use a hard to source mega-DIN connector for these connections. 73 -Jim -- Ham Radio NU0C Lincoln, Nebraska, U.S.S.A. TR7/RV7/R7A/L7, TR6/RV6, T4XC/R4C/L4B, NCL2000, SB104A, R390A, GT550A/RV550A, HyGain 3750, IBM PS/2 - all vintage, all the time! "Give a man a URL, and he will learn for an hour; teach him to Google, and he will learn for a lifetime." HyGain 3750 User's Group - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HyGain_3750/ http://incolor.inetnebr.com/jshorney http://www.nebraskaghosts.org ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 11:26:34 -0500 From: Garey Barrell <[email protected]> To: drakelist <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi Evan - Simple!! The TR-3 was designed for mobile use, no amplifiers and minimum number of connectors to undo. This is the reason for the speaker connector coming out of the back of the power connector. The AC-3 had no VOX or ALC connections either. Then, here comes the Twins. My first T-4X came with an AC-3, so no provision for VOX or ALC. I, and no doubt many others, merely rewired the pigtail coming out of the back of the power connector from the speaker leads (no longer needed, since the receiver had a speaker jack) to the VOX relay connector. Then the AC-4 came along, and to keep everything compatible (and avoid multiple pigtails coming out of the back of the power connector!) the appropriate connectors were put on the AC-4. Simple! :-) 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs <www.k4oah.com> K9sqg wrote: > Curious as to why the VOX and ALC come from the power supply rather than the rig itself. I always > thought that was a strange arrangement. Fortunately, I have a stereo cable with color coded > "channels" so it makes connection simple but would be simpler to run shorter leads directly from > the rig to the linear. Drake always seemed to have good reasons for what they did but this one > has me puzzled, hi hi... > > 73, > > Evan, K9SQG > > -----Original Message----- > From: Garey Barrell <[email protected]> > To: Ron <[email protected]> > Cc: drakelist <[email protected]> > Sent: Sat, Jan 28, 2012 9:37 am > Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7 > > Ron - > > Oh, and the VOX relay contact is right next to it on Pin 8. A REAL relay > contact too, none of this > wimpy reed relay stuff..... :-) > > 73, Garey - K4OAH > Glen Allen, VA > > Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line > and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs > <www.k4oah.com <http://www.k4oah.com>> > > > Ron wrote: > > I am sure that are at least a few folks who are using the TR7 with a power > supply other than the PS7. And I am thinking of those some are using linears. > > > > So where and how did you gain access to the ALC line of the TR7? > > > > TNX es 73, > > Ron WD8SBB > > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 08:31:30 -0800 (PST) From: Ron <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, Jim Shorney <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Remember Jim, today's engineering staff (or should I say finance and marketing engineering staff) is not to worry about your cost of ownership. They are there to get the equipment sold at best profit margin possible and then obsoleted so that you will buy another. It's all about cash flow. BTW I am not blaming the companies. Unfortunately, we do this to ourselves with the way we invest, shop and consume. 73 Ron WD8SBB --- On Sat, 1/28/12, Jim Shorney <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Jim Shorney <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7 > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Date: Saturday, January 28, 2012, 11:01 AM > On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 10:32:36 -0500 > (EST), K9sqg wrote: > > >Curious as to why the VOX and ALC come from the power > supply rather than the rig itself.? I always thought > that was a strange arrangement. > > > Perhaps they though the rear panel of the radio was getting > too cluttered. More > puzzling/annoying to me is why some of the asian rigs use a > hard to source > mega-DIN connector for these connections. > > 73 > > -Jim > > > -- > Ham Radio NU0C > Lincoln, Nebraska, U.S.S.A. > TR7/RV7/R7A/L7, TR6/RV6, T4XC/R4C/L4B, NCL2000, SB104A, > R390A, GT550A/RV550A, HyGain 3750, IBM PS/2 - all vintage, > all the time! > > "Give a man a URL, and he will learn for an hour; teach him > to Google, and he will learn for a lifetime." > > HyGain 3750 User's Group - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HyGain_3750/ > http://incolor.inetnebr.com/jshorney > http://www.nebraskaghosts.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Drakelist mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 08:40:27 -0800 (PST) From: Ron <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Gary, Any ideas on where to put another RCA jack for the VOX relay? Maybe steel the counter input? 73, Ron WD8SBB --- On Sat, 1/28/12, Garey Barrell <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Garey Barrell <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7 > To: "Ron" <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Date: Saturday, January 28, 2012, 9:36 AM > Ron - > > Oh, and the VOX relay contact is right next to it on Pin > 8.? A REAL relay contact too, none of this > wimpy reed relay stuff.....? :-) > > 73, Garey - K4OAH > Glen Allen, VA > > Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line > and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs > <www.k4oah.com> > > > Ron wrote: > > I am sure that are at least a few folks who are using > the TR7 with a power supply other than the PS7.? And I > am thinking of those some are using linears. > > > > So where and how did you gain access to the ALC line of > the TR7? > > > > TNX es 73, > > Ron WD8SBB > > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 11:53:15 -0500 From: Garey Barrell <[email protected]> To: Ron <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Ron - I'd be inclined to use the fixed 'line' AUDIO jack. The counter input can be handy, obviously as a counter, but also as a good quick troubleshooting tool for the radio. The other alternative of course is to get the proper connector, they are available, or use the 'spade' type power connectors used in auto stuff. They will slip right over the Jones pins. <http://www.electronicplus.com/content/ProductPage.asp?pagenum=1&lname=&main cat=wc&subcat=wci> 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs <www.k4oah.com> Ron wrote: > Gary, > Any ideas on where to put another RCA jack for the VOX relay? Maybe steel the counter input? > > 73, > Ron WD8SBB > > --- On Sat, 1/28/12, Garey Barrell<[email protected]> wrote: > >> From: Garey Barrell<[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7 >> To: "Ron"<[email protected]> >> Cc: [email protected] >> Date: Saturday, January 28, 2012, 9:36 AM >> Ron - >> >> Oh, and the VOX relay contact is right next to it on Pin >> 8. A REAL relay contact too, none of this >> wimpy reed relay stuff..... :-) >> >> 73, Garey - K4OAH >> Glen Allen, VA >> >> Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line >> and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs >> <www.k4oah.com> >> >> >> Ron wrote: >>> I am sure that are at least a few folks who are using >> the TR7 with a power supply other than the PS7. And I >> am thinking of those some are using linears. >>> So where and how did you gain access to the ALC line of >> the TR7? >>> TNX es 73, >>> Ron WD8SBB >>> >>> ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 08:57:43 -0800 (PST) From: Ron <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Gary, You mentioned the VOX pin being a real relay. The H&K pg 37 Nov 1988 QST shows a way to use the motherboard 10V TX line and a few components to key your amp sooner/faster. I am looking at doing that only for the extra "speed" in getting the amp in line. Based on my tests so far, it looks like I will load <.5ma on the 10V TX line. Thoughts? TNX es 73, Ron WD8SBB --- On Sat, 1/28/12, Garey Barrell <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Garey Barrell <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TR7 ALC access when not using PS7 > To: "Ron" <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Date: Saturday, January 28, 2012, 9:36 AM > Ron - > > Oh, and the VOX relay contact is right next to it on Pin > 8.? A REAL relay contact too, none of this > wimpy reed relay stuff.....? :-) > > 73, Garey - K4OAH > Glen Allen, VA > > Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line > and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs > <www.k4oah.com> > > > Ron wrote: > > I am sure that are at least a few folks who are using > the TR7 with a power supply other than the PS7.? And I > am thinking of those some are using linears. > > > > So where and how did you gain access to the ALC line of > the TR7? > > > > TNX es 73, > > Ron WD8SBB > > > > > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Drakelist mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist End of Drakelist Digest, Vol 43, Issue 76 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ Drakelist mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
