Good solution, Paul!  Mentally dividing by ten is easy enough and you
retain all of the advantages of using the VTVM probe.

Dennis AE6C

On 11/21/12, Paul Christensen <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dennis' suggestion of using a 100x probe got me to thinking of an
> alternative as the 100x scope probes are sorta' pricey, even on the used
> market.  As Dennis points out, the 100x scope probes are useful when
> sampling high voltage, typically greater than 1KV.  Since my focus has been
>
> with the grids of tube receivers, these measurements (even into the hundreds
>
> of volts) are adequate with the right 10x probe.
>
> The 100x probe uses a 10 meg sampling resistor with a 100K shunt at the
> scope input.  Most scopes have a ~ 1 meg input Z.  The input Z of my Fluke
> 8060A computes to 10.5 meg and is a value that is probably close to most
> portable DMMs.
>
> Taking Dennis' suggestion, I used a 1 meg Simpson VTVM probe and shunted it
>
> with a value close to 100K to create the necessary 10:1 ratio.  A 200K pot
> was used to find a value that produced an exact 10:1 ratio.  For the Fluke
> 8060A and my Simpson VTVM probe, that value is 112.5K.  I then created shunt
>
> consisting of two resistors in series whose total value is 112.5K and
> inserted this combination into a Pomona dual banana jack.  Different shunt
> jacks can be created if one wants best accuracy over a choice of DMMs in the
>
> shack.
>
> In the links below, notice that the Simpson probe is connected to a
> BNC-to-dual banana adapter with standard 3/4" pin spacing.  The adapter has
>
> holes to allow shunting from a dual banana connector; the latter of which
> has the 112.5K resistor combination.  The black plug simply plugs into the
> red plug.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/bc6ggo8
>
> http://tinyurl.com/b56tfm5
>
> Testing this idea in the real world shows that Dennis' idea works in a 10x
> configuration.  For example, when a +12V source is measured, the DMM reads
> 1.2V.  It's then just a simple matter of multiplying displayed results by a
>
> factor of 10 which is a whole lot easier than using the DMM's RELative
> button and trying to find a 1.07V source as the calibrating reference.
>
> It appears good accuracy can be achieved when using a DMM with a traditional
>
> VTVM probe.  The VTVM probe has the benefit of a 1 meg isolation resistor
> which is highly useful for grid readings.  The trade-off is the requirement
>
> of multiplying displayed readings by a factor of 10 -- the same as mentally
>
> moving the display's decimal place to the right by one digit.
>
> Paul, W9AC
>
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