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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gerald D'Aoust)
Subject: White Carousel Horse - Dream and Interp!
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 07:09:53 -0800 (PST)
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Dear Dream-Flow Dreamers,
the following was posted yesterday at MorpheusDreams and relates with
Dream-Flow input... so in mutual courtesy and reciprocity here is what was
posted at Morpheus...
Best Regards and Sweet Dreams,
G�rald
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Dear Dreamers,
for those also connected on Dream-Flow, we have some progression with
our most excellent dreamer from Australia, Mrs. Victoria Quinton... who just
had this most interesting and most revealing Dream...
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White Carousel Horse
Mermaid
Sat 13March1999
Last night, the formerly dark horse on which I had been flying responded to
scratches behind the ear, and pats, by becoming creamy coloured with golden
edges. A watering can appeared in the air beside me - a child's red
plastic one - and I used it to sprinkle out the fire below.
The horse was still animate, but had a golden harness and bridle and a
golden barley sugar twist "partial pole" as though it had been separated
from its carnival carousel/merry-go-round.
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Dear Victoria, this is again a most wonderful dream which goes as you
clearly state with your previous ones of the Dark Horse...
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From: Victoria Quinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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I have been having dreams of flying on a dark horse over swirling fire lately.
I feel scared that the fire will consume me, but determined to get over it.
*************
OK! Dear Victoria and dreamers, as stated earlier, as soon as you begin
to believe in the existence of this Magical Horse... dreams get to rapidly
improve.
Anyways, for all the people here at Morpheus who have received my Dream
Inspired Art exhibition on Friday and for the few of us on the both lists
who received the Dream-Flow message later on, late Saturday or even
Sunday... the question is...
"What unique Horse in the whole world can transform like that from Black
to White in a Dream?"
The answer to this most childish question, has been exposed on the Net in
all my documentation since 16 months or so, in my writings for over ten
years and has been preserved in the records of Teutonic Mythology for a few
millenaries. :)
Yes! There is only one Horse which can do that... as exposed earlier...
"Odin" or "Woden" or "Wotan"... the Rider of Sleipnir... the magical flying
Horse which was venerated just like his Rider. You may wish to read more
about him in "The Encyclopedia of Mythology" English version from pages 252
to 258... of which these are some interesting extracts... or parts of such...
"Odin is supposed to be the principal god of the Teutonic people and has
been regarded as such for centuries, especially among the ancestors of the
Germans." (252)
"Odin was armed with a shining breast-plate and a golden helmet. In his
hand he grasped the spear Gungnir... His Horse, which was sometimes white
and sometimes black, which was able to fly in the air, was the best and
Swiftest of all Stallions... and no obstacle existed that it could not
overcome." (254)
>"His Horse, which was sometimes white and sometimes black..."
The same passage in regards to its ability to change colour can be read
on page 225 of the french version of the same Encyclopedia... in the second
paragraph dedicated to Odin, Wodin, Wotan, or whatever you want to call the
Highest Diety or Chief-God of the Teutonic people... who were smartily
venerating this Magical Horse as well as his Divine Master. Yes!
Allright, back to this Friday the 13th Dream... no-no, I'm just joking
that was Saturday the 13th Dream... ha! ahaahh! :) ....
...contains all kinds of interesting elements which appeared as soon as
Victoria decided to be affectionate towards the Magical Horse... some
elements which I will briefly outline and define, beginning with...
>A watering can appeared in the air beside me - a child's red
>plastic one - and I used it to sprinkle out the fire below.
... and this is most interesting here, because the Fire below, the Fires
of Hells, which is the Fire of the Horse because this Horse, which is the
Eternal Spirit of the Lord, is the ruler of both Hell and Heaven gives us at
least two clues... the first one belonging to the Solar Birth Astrology of
the Rider which is Scorpio... as outlined in the book of Revelation in
chapter 9...
9
1 The fifth angel sounded his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen
from the sky to the earth. The star was given the key to the shaft of the
Abyss. 2 When he opened the Abyss, smoke rose from it like the smoke from
a gigantic furnace. The sun and sky were darkened by the smoke from the
Abyss. 3 And out of the smoke locusts came down upon the earth and were
given power like that of scorpions of the earth. 4 They were told not to
harm the grass of the earth or any plant or tree, but only those people who
did not have the seal of God on their foreheads. 5 They were not given
power to kill them, but only to torture them for five months. And the
agony they suffered was like that of the sting of a scorpion when it
strikes a man. 6 During those days men will seek death, but will not find
it; they will long to die, but death will elude them.
7 The locusts looked like horses prepared for battle. On their heads they
wore something like crowns of gold and their faces resembled human faces.
8 Their hair was like women's hair, and their teeth were like lion's teeth.
9 They had breastplates like breastplates of iron, and the sound of their
wings was like the thundering of many horses and chariots rushing into
battle. 10 They had tails and stings like scorpions, and in their tails,
they had power to torment people for five months. 11 They have as king
over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in
Greek, Apollyon.
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... and of course, this again deals with the Horsemen of the Apocalypse...
you know in the general sense that "He is The Chariot of Israel and the
Horsemen thereof"... as illustrated in the first 4 Seals described in
Revealtion 6....
6
1 I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard
one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, "Come!" 2 I
looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and
he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.
3 When the Lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature
say, "Come!" 4 Then another horse came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was
given power to take peace from the earth and to make men slay each other.
To him was given a large sword.
5 When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature
say, "Come!" I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider
was holding a pair of scales in his hand. 6 Then I heard what sounded like
a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a
day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not
damage the oil and the wine!"
7 When the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth
living creature say, "Come!" 8 I looked and there before me was a pale
horse! Its rider was named Death and Hades was following close behind him.
They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine,
and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.
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.... but as you are aware, you must change this stupid term of Lamb by
Angel, because I cleary exposed before that the word "Angelus" or Angel had
been confused by the uninspired christian priests with the word "Agnelus"...
which is Lamb and everywhere in the Bible where you come to the expression
Lamb of God you must replace this most illogic and equally most ignorant
stupidity by the correct term of Angel of God which is this Airy-Horse which
was kind enough to give Victoria a few rides lately.
Anyways, this colour changing Magical Horse can also be read about in
Zechariah 6,2 to 6,5... where they say exactly the same thing and further
add that these Horses which are actually the only one all the time... is the
Spirit(s) of the Lord... or the Spirit(s) of Heaven, depending on the
version of the Bible that you may possess because there are only 17
different versions of the Bible and some are more filled with errors than
others. :)
OK! Regardless, this water bucket deals with Astrology... because it links
with a Star which fell from Heaven and this thing about Scorpio tail...
relates to the Scorpio aspect of the Rider of the Horse which must be born
as a Horse-Scorpio.... and this is what is said about a "Horse-Scorpio", in
Suzanne White's "Original Chinese Astrology Book" which you can find
anywhere... which says...
HORSE-SCORPIO
"The Scorpio stands by, ready to chuck a pail of sensible water on the
Horse's Fire if it decides to rage out of control. This match is a solid
one, Gibraltar never had it so good. though you may perceive what you think
are chinks in the armour of this Warrior Horse, for him they are mere
scratches. ...... The Horse-Scorpio knows exactly what he is doing. .....
Even a minor deviation from his path to victory will be well-calculated to
insert itself discretly into his plan of action. Unlike other Horses, who
can be toyed and tamed by psychological connivance, the Scorpio Horse has no
time for anything so impractical as untarnished virtue. If the right flank
does not get them, then the left will. And no shilly-shallying now! Hup!
One, Two, Three, and Ad Infinitum..."
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Anyways, as you can see, the bucket of Holy Water of the Faith in the
Horse can extinguish the Fires of Hells.... as well known by the Mazdeans,
who are presently awaiting for the coming of the last Amesha-Spenta,
Sosiosh, who according to the prophet Zarathustra would be supposed to come
at the end of the present millenary...
"Sosiosh will be brought down on a white Horse in a tornado of Fire."
(extract from "The Secret Doctrine" by H.P. Blavatsky, Vol.I, p.87)
According again to their scriptures, Sosiosh, the last
Saviour, will preside at the resurrection of the dead and the regeneration
of mankind, by preparing the ambrosia which is to render mankind immortal,
just as Him.
"Praise to Him, the Merciful Lord who maketh the final
Retribution, and who at the end shall deliver even the wicked from Hell and
restore the whole creation to purity." (extract from "The Encyclopedia of
Religions and Ethics" Vol.II, p.137b)
Also, as you may be aware, the oldest Prayer in the World, addressed to
the Swift-Horsed-Sun speaks of this Angelical Spirit of the Lord as being a
Good Being... just pay attention here to this ancient prayer which is
entitled "Khorshed Yast"... or
"Yast to the Sun" and is extracted from the Zend-Avesta Part II, pages 85 to
87 and translated by James Damesteter, Motilal Banarsidass, India.
"YAST TO THE SUN "
"Unto the undying, shining, Swift-Horsed Sun;
Be propitiation, with sacrifice, prayer, propitiation and glorification.
The will of the Lord is the Law of Holiness...
1. We sacrifice unto the undying, shining, Swift-Horsed Sun.
When the light of the Sun waxes warmer, when the brightness of
the Sun rises up, then up stand the heavenly Yazatas, by hundreds and
thousands: they gather together its Glory, they make its Glory pass down,
they pour its Glory upon the Earth made by Ahura, for the increase of the
World of Holiness, for the increase of the Creatures of Holiness, for the
increase of the undying, shining, Swift-Horsed Sun.
2. And when the Sun rises up, then the Earth made by Ahura,
becomes clean; the running waters become clean, the water of the wells
become clean, the standing waters become clean; all the holy creatures, the
creatures of the Good Spirit, become clean.
3. Should not the Sun rise up, then the Da�vas would destroy all
the things... that are in the seven Kharvares (Regions of the World), nor
would the heavenly Yazatas find any way of withstanding or repelling them in
the material world.
4. He who offers up a sacrifice unto the undying, shinning,
Swift-Horsed Sun - to withstand darkness, to withstand the Da�vas born of
darkness...to withstand Death that creeps unseen - offers it up to Ahura
Mazda, offers it up to the Amesha-Spentas, offers it up to his own Soul...as
he benefits them and himself thereby. He rejoices all the heavenly and
worldly Yazatas, who offers up a sacrifice unto the undying, shining,
Swift-Horsed Sun.
5. I will sacrifice unto Mithra, the Lord of Wide Pastures, who
has a thousand Ears and ten thousand Eyes.
I will sacrifice unto the club of Mithra, the Lord of Wide
Pastures, well struck down upon the skulls of the Da�vas.
I will sacrifice unto that friendship, the Best of all
Friendships, that reigns between the Moon and the Sun.
6. For his Brightness and Glory, I will offer unto Him a
sacrifice worth being heard, namely, unto the undying, shining, Swift-Horsed
Sun Unto the undying, shining, Swift-Horsed Sun, we offer up the libations,
the Haoma and food, the Beresma, the wisdom of tongue, the Holy Spells, the
Speech, the Deeds, the libations and the rightly-spoken words.
7. The will of the Lord is the Law of Holiness...
I bless the sacrifice and the invocation, and the strength
and vigor of the undying of the undying, shining, Swift-Horsed Sun.
Holiness is the best of all good....
Give unto that Man... who is the Swift-Horsed
Sun....Brightness and Glory, give Him Health of Body... give Him
Wealth...give Him the bright, all-happy, blissful abode of the Holy Ones."
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How beautiful and clearly indicating that this Winged-Horse
is a Good Being, the Best of all Friends... so what's the problem? :)
Anyways, I must confess that I'm quite surprised to realise that very
few people on this planet ever paid any attention to the prophecised Coming
or Return of God on His planet or this planet... here is a bit of
disorganised material which a few of you may enjoy to read... in this
regard, from the works of H.P. Blavatsky and Alice.A. Bailey...
Ok! about H.P. Blavatsky. This woman over a hundred years ago, in her
most famous book, "The Secret Doctrine" (1888) Vol.1, p.86-87... came really
close to disclose the whole mystery in regards to the Primordial Soul of the
Universe... which incarnations she refers to as "The Sons of Fire"... and
she says... among other things that...
"They are connected with a great primordial and universal mystery, and it
is not easy to make it clear. There is a passage in the Bhagavadgita
(Ch.viii) wherein Krishna, speaking symbolically and esoterically, says: " I
will state the times... at which devotees departing (from this life) do so
never to return (be reborn), or to return (to reincarnate again)." "
And, in the context of the Inner Man, which she refers to in the dream
article which you just sent me, she adds... in regards to the Sons of Fire,
which Sankaracharya says that they are "A Diety which presides over Time". !!!
THEY ARE "A" DIETY... = "He is the Chariot of Israel and the Horsemen thereof."
"The Agnishwatha, the Kumara (Mystic Sages), are solar dieties, though the
former are Pitris (Ghosts?) also; and these are the "Fashioners of the Inner
Man.". They are:-
"The Sons of Fire" - because they are the first Beings (in the Secret
Doctrine, they are called "Minds")....
... and then, my friends, listen to this, she adds...
"Visnu will return on Kalki, the White Horse, as the Last Avatar amid fire
and flames; and Sosiosh will be brought down equally on a White Horse in a
"tornado of fire." "And I saw heaven open and behold a White Horse, and he
that sat upon him... is called the Word of God, amid flaming Fire." (Rev.19,13)"
... and finally she adds that "He is the Manifested Diety - in its
Universality."
So, as you can see, dear dreamers, she came really close to discover the
whole thruth... and if she was here today she could easily in full
confidence declare that the guy who dreams of Flying on the Winged-Horse is
"The Sons of Fire"!!!
Finally, H.P. Blavatsky, in her 2% of inspiration (because there is 98%
transpirational bla-bla in her work)... pinpointed the key to the whole
universal mystery.
However, her only little mistakes is that Kalki is the Hindu name of the
Avatar of Synthesis expected to come now... and that Horse in Hinduism is
known as Khantara or King Tara. Also, Soshiosh is from the Mazdean Religion
and is the Last Saoshyanto or Saviour who is expected for the year 2000 and
who will come and restore humanity in purity... an render it immortal!!!
Anyways, what she says is basically the same as what Alice. A. Bailey
wrote, in the first page of "The Reappearance of the Christ" (1948)...
"...He has come and today will be no exception to this ancient rule or to
this universal law. For decades, the reappearance of the Christ, the Avatar,
has been anticipated by the faithfull in both hemispheres - not only by the
Christian faithful, but by those who look for Maitreya and for the
Boddhisatva as well as those who expect the Imam Madhi."
Also, Alice Bailey in her "Esoteric Astrology" (1951), p.214, wrote that he
would be Scorpio...
"" ...Ancient One is no longer seen. He sinks to the depth of the ocean
of life; he descends into hell, but the gates of hell hold him not. He, the
new and living One leaves below that which has held him down throughout the
Ages and rises from the depths unto the heights, close to the throne of God."
The connection of these words with Christ, the present world Saviour, is
obvious in their implications, and yet they were written in our archives
over 7,000 years ago. Death in Scorpio is of a different nature and is also
described in thefollowing words:
"...Ancient One dies by drawning. Such is the test. The waters envelop him
and there is no escape. He drowns. The fires of passion are then quenched.
The life of desires ceases its appeal and to the bottom of the lake he now
descends. Later, he re-ascends to Earth where the White-Horse waits his
coming. And this he mounts, proceeding towards the second (next) death.""
Kabunga! Can anyone understand these most simple things... it doesn't
take a genius to see that. :)
I'll tell you one very simple thing. In the past, it took less than 17
successive incarnations of the Winged-Horse in China for them to umnderstand
this story, perhaps a dozen with the Celts, less than a dozen with the
Assyro-Babylonians, less than a couple
dozens with the Greco-Romans, just to say that although people of the
present generation consider themselves to be intelligent, I've given the
list of over 150 of the previous manifestations of the Lord, or the
Chief-God... (because there are countless other Gods too... but the
Chief-God is always the self-begotten one who wakes up all the others...),
... and I'm beginning to get the solid impression that poor confused
generation of Humanity is slower in the mind or not intellectually
developped as the Assyro-Babylonians were already some 7,000 years ago or
the Shamans some 50,000 years ago???!!! :)
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Regardless of this poor intellectual performance of the majority of the
present modern souls... let's go back to the dream of Victoria to verify
some other clues....
>The horse was still animate, but had a golden harness and bridle and a
>golden barley sugar twist "partial pole" as though it had been separated
>from its carnival carousel/merry-go-round.
... and this golden harness and bridle links us with written elements of
the story of Bellerophon and Athena as exposed again in my little exhibition
and elsewhere...
"Bellerophon, was a weird personage, who flew on the Winged-Horse in a
dream and subsequently killed the Chimera. This is true, the Goddess Athena
appeared to him "IN A DREAM", .... THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT
STATEMENT..... and gave
him a gold bridle thanks to which he was able to tame the Horse Pegasus.
(Encyclopedia of Mythology, English version, p.108, French version., p.102...
and issued from Pindare's "Olympics" xiii, 63 to 87.)"
... a gold bridle!!! Just like Victoria described. :)
OK! The barley, relates to beer and the symbol of spiritual transformation
as mentioned several times before and this twist partial pole reresents
cyclical continuity... the ceaseless becoming just as in the Su-Asti-Ka!!!
That which is eternally good and relates with this continual sempiternal
Merry Go Round!! :)
Besides, all the gold present in this dream relates to the
everlastingness of the Horse which has been described as White Horse with
Golden Mane and etc... in various places... especially in Slavonic Mythology
as stated in the Encyclopedia of Mythology, in the french version, on page
284, where we can read...
"Dazhbog, the Sun, according to Slavonic myths and legends,
lived in the East, in a land of eternal summer and abundance. There, he had
his golden palace from which he emerged every morning in his luminous
chariot, drawn by White Horses who breathed fire, to cross the celestial vault.
In a popular polish story, the Sun travels (in the sky) in a
chariot of diamonds, pulled by twelve horses with gold manes.
In another legend, the Sun lives in Orient, in a palace of
gold. He goes around in a carriage pulled by three Horses : Horse of Silver,
Horse of Gold and Horse of Diamond."
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In any and all cases, the whole idea is simply a question of recognition
based upon spiritual knowledge derived from dreams...
" For the Days of the Lord are coming..... . And it shall come to pass
afterward, saith God, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh; and your
sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams,
your young men shall see visions.
Even on my servants and handmaidens I will pour out, in those days,
my Spirit; and they shall prophesy."
(Words of the Lord himself revealed to the prophet Jo�l preserved
in Jo�l 2.28-30 in the Old Testament and, due to their crucial importance,
repeated in the New Testament in Acts 2.16-18.)
... and if you can understand that he is the Chariot of Israel and the
Horsemen thereof, you will have understood the All and the key to the whole
Divine Knowledge and Science... of the Primordial Soul of the Universe...
"He shall see his seed, He shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of
the Lord shall prosper in his hand. He shall see the travail of his soul and
shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify
many..." Isa�ah 53.10-11
"By his KNOWLEDGE shall my righteous servant justify many...!!!" Yah!
which goes along with...
"...He has qualified you to share in the inheritance of the Saints in the
Kingdom of Light. For he has rescued us from the Dominion of Darkness and
brought us into the Kingdom...." (Colossians 1, 12-13)... in the context of
the knowledge of his will through all spiritual wisdom and understanding
which is the knowledge of God... (Colossians 1,9-10)... and of his Kingdom..."
"In the context of the KNOWLEDGE of his will through all spiritual wisdom
and understanding which is the KNOWLEDGE of God... (Colossians 1,9-10)...
and of his Kingdom..."
And as the Buddha, who said that he was himself the
Horse-of-those-Days.... said about the Greatest Blessing....
"Much KNOWLEDGE, mucg Science and a well trained mind (soul)... is the
greatest blessing!!! Yes!
So, the final verdict on this dream is simply that if our talented
dreamer Victoria and anybody else in this world can realise and recognise
this Airy-Horse as the Spirit of the Primordial Soul of the Universe, the
doors of Heaven will be wide opened for all of those who can recognise the
Holy Spirit of the Lord which is the Seal on their forehead and the Spirit
of Lord will escort them to the nice side of the Kingdom of God which is the
Kingdom of the Airy-Horse.
Thank you all, and thank you again Victoria and keep on patting the
Glorious Horse of the Eternal Merry Go Round.... and everything will just be
fine. :)
Thank you, thank you very much,
G�rald
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